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FOR THOSE WHO SEEK UNDERSTANDING ABOVE ALL. WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING, THERE CAN BE NO UNITY.
The first four chakras, and therefore the first four churches of Revelations chapter two, collectively represent the lower temples of our body.
What’s The Esoterica Behind Revelations And The Seven Churches?
-5 Points when I got here. This community is entirely blind regarding esoteric reality and the knowledge the ancients accrued and imbued in their architecture, art, and writings.
Good on VC for accepting your post anyways.
Tarot, Astrology, astro-theology, Kabbalah, sacred geometry are all legitimate spiritual sciences. And most Christians haven’t got a clue.
I DON’T UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS either, but I’ve learned enough to know I need to keep researching until I actually understand it.
Moral action and telling the truth are the ideas I keep hearing from the great spiritual teachers regarding developing your spiritual organs. I’ve stopped eating meat for one thing. Stealing from others is not the behaviour of a higher consciousness being. And it makes sense to me that eating the life force of suffering and all the evil that goes into the slaughter of animals manifests energetically into lower vibrations and in matter manifests as things like parasites and cysts and hormones and stuff.
Like begets like. If I consume lower vibration stuff I’ll stay in lower vibration consciuosness. The more frequently your actions align with truth, the higher resolution and frequency your aggregate vibration is.
You’re so deep drowning in the New-Age crap. Blavatsky has done a terrific job! Good luck with the Kabbalah thing. Madonna is so into Kabbalah. I bet she understands it 100%… sacrificing and eating toddlers.
How many of Blavatsky’s books have your read in their entirety?
“Madonna is so into Kabbalah”
You’ve fallen into the same trap that atheists do.
Just because evil people cut out the hearts of children with a knife doesn’t mean all sharp pointy objects are evil.
And please answer my question.
Exactly. It’s apparent who is an adept and who isn’t. Lots of willful ignorance and mental bias in this community.
And they claim to be the most woke of people that’s the irony
Do you really think I need to read an entire Satanic Bible, or other satanic garbage writings in their entirety in order to know what satanism is? You want to test my knowledge about Madame Blavatsky, the teosophist, the hater of marriage, the enemy of biological gender, the one that states loud and clear that Lucifer is the Logos, the Enlightner, the helper of mankind, the Savior, the only god of humankind? Is that it? I know one Logos – Christ! The Way, the Truth, the Life!
If you are the defender of Blavatsky for one reason or another, please remember she states that Lucifer is the Savior!!! It’s very curious to me that you are attacking the pedophiles, the cannibals, all these sick celebrities obsessed by luciferianism but seem to ignore that this woman had spread the putrid lies of it. She is the Mama, the Mentor of modern ocultism.
I don’t need to read the whole garbage, not even a book of this infamous anti-christ character, Blavatsky! Do I need to know everything what Aleister Crowley said or wrote in order to understand that he is a satanist? Already everybody knows that! No need for further investigations.
About the New Age crap… this is just the huge umbrella under which satanism/ luciferianism/ yoga movement, the channeling and all the false doctrines hide. It is all about religious syncretism. New Age seems to many something soft and friendly but is in fact satanic to the core.
About meat… of course it’s better if we all gave up eating it, I personally hate knowing that animals suffer, but that doesn’t necessary makes one less human, less good as a person. There are other things about human nature that makes us really mean. The lower vibration has to do with our pride, our dark thoughts, our selfishness and cruelty toward fellow people. Satan fasts too, yet he is at the lowest vibrational level.
Honestly, what a pointless diatribe.
Say what you will, but lots of what you said is, either, irrelevant or incorrect. Blavatsky got married twice. She even suggested marriage as a means to combat sexual immorality. You know, it’s very easy to point at Hitler and proclaim him a bad person, but the same can’t be said about many philosopher throughout history, regardless of flaws. We’re all sinners, and no one is perfect. You can learn from Nietszche, even though he was a misanthrope and misogynist. You can learn from Ghandi, although at one point he was accused of child molestation. It doesn’t invalidate the good philosophies they cultivated beyond their human flaws. The same goes for Blavatsky and many philosophers throughout history. And Blavatsky was an intellectual. There’s no need to be emotionally involved in her thought. Think for yourself and rid yourself of emotional thought. Also, “Lucifer” is used only once in the Bible. “The morning star” is used multiple times, and at one time to refer to Jesus. It’s a title, much like Christ is.
Beyond all that, frankly, as soon as someone labels Yoga a Satanic practice, they reveal the depth of their ignorance. Not worth a deeper discussion as soon as someone says that.
Yoga has been a spiritual science for thousands of years. Even meditation is a form of Yoga. So are various forms of prayer. So then, all the Holy figures throughout history, whether mythological or real, are demons to you except Jesus?
Please, think for yourself. I’m not denigrating YOU, I’m denigrating these ideas that come from religious fanaticism and bias.
Last thing I’ll write for now: there’s no greater sign of a developed, mature intellect than being able to read and earnestly study that which you don’t agree with or have conflict against.
How else would you intelligently criticize it? You’re not doing yourself any favors by being biased about what you read.
I’ve read the Satanic Bible, a couple Aleister Crowley books, other dark satanic witchcraft books, and a bunch of other on the occult and illuminati type historical records and books. The only way to truly understand the enemy and his methods of control over your mind is to study their tactics,spells,witchcraft etc. How they do what they do. The one main lesson I have learned by studying the above, is that they know how our brain works. this is fundamentally the biggest secret imo. Garbage in, garbage out. They know down to a science how to manipulate your mind without you ever batting an eye. And nowadays with their mind manipulator called Television and the like, they pretty much have the majority under their spell. I try and study as much as I can on different symbols these people use to communicate with each other and subliminally subject what they choose to we the people. They have been doing this for thousands and thousands of years at some level. Unfortunately, in order to do that I must go down these dark evil rabbit holes to get the information I’m looking for. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, well a symbol is worth a thousand pictures.
Nothing to do with new age. Please educate yourself and study spiritual history and religions. You may as well proclaim that you’re a religious fanatic, because you’re disrespecting what is sacred to another religion due to your own misconceptions and superstitions – your ignorance.
Do educate yourself about real Christianity and read some theologycal stuff instead of some syncretic new-age material.
Satanism is a religion! Do I really have to respect the “sacredness” of it too and “educate” the poor ignorant that I am about it further more? Somewhere in this journey of yours in studying spiritual history you’ve missed Jesus, the apostles, the persecution of christians and the martirdom. You also missed the big picture – the spiritual warfare and it looks like you are not a bit aware of it! I give you some news – new age is in the war zone. To put it very simple although New Age is not that new – new age, new order belong to the same script Blavatsky, Crowley, satan, blured gender, abortion agenda, human sacrifice, pedophilia do.
Do educate yourself some more about New Age!!!
I’m sorry, but you have no idea what you’re talking about. You even called Yoga satanic, and that’s the brunt of religious fanaticism. To this day, that remains one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever heard Christians say, and I’ve heard plenty of them say it.
You don’t know my experience, and I don’t know yours. I do know that I love correction though, because I love knowledge and wisdom, and so long as I’ve been studying all religions and meditating/praying, Christ hasn’t steered me wrong. In fact, it’s been revealed to me, time and time again, how beautiful all of existence is. If I were practicing something dark, I would’ve snapped out of it long ago. I can’t help but find it humorous too, especially considering the way I carry myself. You don’t know me, but I know ignorance when I see it. It’s ignorance I’m criticizing, not you. Hate the sin, not the sinner.
My personal ideas regarding syncrenistic religion is irrelevant to the FACT that religion is syncrenistic.
You know you’re afraid of a term, right?
Time passes everyday, for millennia. New ages rise and fall, like the sun. This “new age” you speak of is a mixture of various ancient teachings mixed together. A new age is exactly what we’re entering, regardless of how you choose to perceive it. To me, it sounds like you’re afraid of the future. Trust me, I’m worried about certain things to, but teachings rooted in goodness and ancient wisdom are the last thing I’m worried about.
And you asserting that it’s tied to satanism is your own personal idea. I’m not defending anything but the logical truth.
I’ve even had ignoramuses proclaim that meditation is satanic. Those are the truly lost people – people who don’t know anything about themselves.
I’ve been reading stuff like this since I was 13. I’ve read quite a lot, from the Tao Te Ching to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Satanism is a religion today, but it’s not a major religion that has persisted throughout history. It had always been the opposite of holy teachings and rituals, enacted by those who strayed from those teachings for more worldly ones. It’s not an organized practice throughout the ages, and it was never rooted in God’s Word.
There are only two things to worship: God and His Spirit, or the world and the ego. That’s the totality of spiritual life. You either worship the Holy Spirit, or you worship the world and your ties to it.
The point is that all major religions are rooted in that worship of the Spirit, and it doesn’t take a great intellect to recognize that. It’s there for you to study and learn. It’s there for you to experience when you travel to other cultures. It’s all rooted in the heart.
Like I said, all division occurs in the mind. Stop letting your mental conceptions rule your perception.
Everything that exists vibrates, from your body, to the planets and stars, to the eternal Spirit of God. Ever had the Holy Spirit enter you and cause your body to vibrate in a positive manner? I have, and you can’t hold that to a misconception, because that exactly how the church portrays the Spirit entering you. It fills you with energy and elates you.
Frequencies and vibrations are universal constants. Without them, there’d be no existence. God is the greatest mathematician of all. I hope you don’t believe that this talk of “higher vibrations” is new age speak. It’s science. It’s self-knowledge. It’s an understanding of God’s creation.
I know you’re able to pick up on positive and negative vibes (vibrations) in the atmosphere and in other people, like we all can.
Without Jesus’ example set for humankind there is no higher vibration but misleading substitutes.
“I am the Way, the Truth and the Life..”
Jesus CHRIST. I don’t relegate Christ’s sacrifice to one specific point in time. It’s eternal and immeasurable. Christ, the Logos, the Word and Son of God, is the way, the truth, the life – and all major religions (no, not Satanism) are rooted in the Word of God. The Divine Pymander even mentions that Word, that Son, long before the time of Moses.
What will it take to make you see that all things are one? That’s the truth.
And you’ll never hear me denigrate Jesus Christ. Or Buddha. Or Krishna. Or Brahma-Vishnu. Or Shiva-Shakti. Or any other holy figure.
I’m grateful that I can discern the omnipresence and omniscience of God in all of their teachings. It’s nothing short of a blessing to see the Word of God prevalent throughout many different cultures taking its form according to the people and their traditions.
I see the bigger picture perfectly fine.
I was just texting my friends about how eating meat really isn’t that good especially when the animal’s soul has been tormented.
Then I read your comment!
animals do not have souls
That’s.. Worth discussing.
>>Tarot, Astrology, astro-theology, Kabbalah, sacred geometry are all legitimate spiritual sciences.
You might be right, but… Sooo many teachings, life is not enough to study them all, huh? Divide and conquer.
There is only one true living God.
“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand” (Matthew 12:25).
No reason to read all that Blavatsky (or whatever) crap.
Blavatsky’s “crap” gives evident proof that all religions stem from the same source of wisdom. There’s beauty in that, especially because it is the truth. How could you believe in an ineffable, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent Supreme Intelligence amd then relegate that supreme intelligence to one specific, and limited, human conception?
And every kingdom divided amongst itself is divided, first and foremost, by the mind. If you cannot discern the cohesion between your beliefs and the beliefs of another religion, then it is clear to me that you are compartmentalizing your discernment of God. If you cannot stand, man to man, with those of different traditions and beliefs, then you are the one creating that division.
Also, you have your own body. Be aware of it. It’s common sense that your body is comprised of, and uses, energy. That’s all the chakras are, centers of energy governing different aspects of your being. It’s common wisdom passed throughout the ages.
If you were prone to lust, where do you think that energy resides? Some work is necessary for yourself. If you’re obese, you can’t ask the Lord to instantly make you lose weight. You need to work on yourself.
I’ve been eating only farm raised beef, chicken and eggs from a friend’s farm for the last 4 months, not that store crap that’s full of hormones and antibiotics, and it’s made a world of difference
I know. It’s strange, considering the inspiration behind VC.
Christianity has its esoteric and exoteric Teachings, like every religion does. But you don’t teach calculus to one who still hasn’t mastered arithmetic, lest he lose his head, gets frustrated, and shuns all Teachings. “Milk for babes, meat for strong men”
I don’t know what these people are afraid of, and i don’t mean to be accusatory, but i haven’t seen much love for wisdom here unless it comes from the Bible (which is great) – but the Bible is 1 of many holy texts positing similar Teachings. I find it bizarre how one could miss the beauty and wisdom in other texts, such as the Bhagavad Gita or the Quran, and many more.
Wanna know why? Because these people don’t care about truth, love, spirituality or anything like that.
It Is very, very simple and easy to observe: they only roam this site ’cause it gives their broken lifes (and selves) that much needed sense of validation.
No one would like to find out years down the line that they have given their entre lives and selves away to a lie they have been Mind Kontrolled to beLIEve, right? So they need It yo be a reality at all costs.
All the symbology mumbo-jumbo reafirms their beLIEfs as the “correct” ones while the whole “end of the world” woo-woo confirms their whole “end times” delusion.
They are validated in their weak, broken sense of self all the while they are being given a “life purpose” of sorts with the end times arc.
MKultra 101.
I would pity them if it wasn’t for the fact that they aré annoying, arrogant and throw many off the path of truth with their tomfoolery.
Harsh. But I won’t choose to deride anyone, only the ignorance displayed.
I have noticed that almost every link here on a daily basis is focused on something negative. It’s great to be aware, but some positive news would be good too. I’ll try to incorporate that, on top of various other perspectives regarding the symbolism of different religions.
How lucky we cretins are that you have chosen to come down from your heights to educate us.
Not one thing that I have written is stooped in a “holier than thou” attitude.
But i certainly proactive what i preach, and i know the same can’t be said about many people.
“Get Knowledge and understanding, I promise that few will follow, just know that we’re all connected like Brothers with different mothers” 🙏🏽
CeeTruth, it’s a measure of how awful Satan is that I even want someone as infuriatingly condescending as you to be saved. Keep going how you are going and you will find out exactly what I am talking about. And then I will be the first person to give you a hug of consolation, because it’s a very hard thing to come to understand that the world really is fallen.
That condescension you perceive is a mirror to your own.
Seriously. These people they idolize (like Blavatsky) literally received their revelations from demons. Doctrines of demons we are warned about in these end times. Satan is the father of lies. Not every experience during meditation is good and trustworthy! I know this personally!!! There is good and evil, love and hate, life and death. It comes down to a choice and the second you believe it’s all the same, Satan has got you right where he wants you. There’s a reason Jesus gave the great commission. To SAVE us out of every other world/false religion. It’s not about religious fanaticism, it’s about life and death. No one is above the human condition. We can be deceived if we aren’t careful, ESPECIALLY in the spiritual things where we are most vulnerable to these doctrines of demons. We are told NOT to lean on our own understanding and to test the spirits.
Who’s idolizing? You’re making assumptions. And you seem to be afraid of conceptualizations.
You’re not testing any spirits, or garnering an awareness of your inner self and relationship to God, if you don’t even have a spiritual practice.
Just a general fact.
You make the most assumptions for someone going around telling others they’re assuming. It’s interesting, your communication is at such a low vibration for someone who claims to be so spiritual. The truth I’m speaking actually comes from the word of God, not some man made religion. I seek God every day and I won’t sit here trying to prove what my “spiritual practices” are. You are full of yourself.
I don’t adhere to man-made religion either. I seek God everyday too, and i pray and am grateful for everything in my life. I write bluntly, and in general I’m criticizing the idea that others are doomed for their own discernment and understanding of the deeper mysteries. I believe in Christ, I’m not your enemy. I recognize that all things are one. God is ineffable, but we can meet and understand Him. God is One and All.
If you don’t understand the Chakras, the energy along your spine, or if you believe they are satanic (which is absurd to me) then perhaps you should educate yourself on it. The Bible is teeming with allegories and esoteric symbolism, and much of what they convey is occluded in other religions as well.
I’ve been meditating for about 9 years and I’ve had nothing but good experiences. I’ve had negative thought forms trying to take control a few times, but they’re nothing to the connected breath.
The breath is not evil. It gives us life. It’s the Spirit of God. The breath, the pneuma, the ruach. To condemn meditation and Yoga practice is to condemn the Spirit, as meditation and various forms of yoga are tied to the breath, and they are ways to worship God, or His spirit within. The same can be said of practices in other religions and cultures, from Chinese Tai-Chi to Shamanic breathing.
You’re right, my last few comments weren’t very good, I was writing hastily, on the move. I don’t think I’ve resorted to any name calling though (not that you have). The worst you’ll hear from me is “ignorant”, and just because one is ignorant of something doesn’t mean one is an ignorant person.
I have a voice of reason, and that voice is imparted by way of being able to discern the good in all things. I’m not a saint either, but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t think like one.
I agree about meditation, I stay away from it. It seems like some veil has thinned and really dark things are coming through in any activities that require “tuning in” mentally to frequencies from unknown sources. I think angelic and demonic beings are at some level thought beings, archetypes, and that is what we tap into with meditation, art, etc. Carl Jung, the archetypal psychologist, is listed as an admired person on the Church of Satan website. That says a lot to me. And David Lynch is a long time practitioner of transcendental meditation. Look at his artistic output, it’s very dark. Meditation doesn’t seem to be bringing him any kind of inner peace.
Yes, there is a false light out there and it’s deceiving many. People love the darkness and they confuse the darkness for light. It’s a fight for our mind right now and we can’t be accepting everything that sounds good and feels good. 2 Timothy really helped me recently where Paul warns about the last days. He’s spot on and it’s happening all around us!!!
I would assume that the false light is the world and its enticing allure.
Look at all the social media, tiktok trends, glorification of promiscuity and hypersexualized, p**n. The vanity, the technology, the clout chasing, the dopamine rush (literally and figuratively). The love of money and its temptations.
Who would you say is right between a blue haired snowflake and a Christian when they both claim to detain the truth ? One who claim to know the truth is an ignorant in my honest opinion. Truth exists though, but it’s beyond human comprehension. In the end, you are just like the ones you pretend to fight against.
David Lynch is the worst example. He’s had ties to dark Hollywood for decades.
And as I wrote above, meditation involves consciously focusing on your breathing. If you believe that is evil, God bless you.
You might then consider changing your profile picture since it’s a Rosicrucian symbol 😉
I’ve been meaning to call this out. The Rose cross.
No derision here: I DO choose to expose them for what they are. Notice the record breaking twelve downvotes in under an hour and in an ‘older’ post, proving everything I just said (specially the weakness part) LOL
They have co-opted this place, they always claim to be ‘persected’, they’re a “protected class” around these parts… and then, they complain about the leftists crazy fanaticism LOL Not too long ago more or less the whole society was “xtian” where do they think these leftists come from? They changed dogmas but their behavior is the exact same and that’s an obvious undeniable fact.
And all this… considering these people as real people. Because I have long suspected they are psy-op trolls posing as christians talking fanatic nonsense to turn truth seekers off due to reinforcing the stereotype of “conspiracy theorists as crazy right wing christian fanatics”.
Notice there’s quite a bit of them, they write very similar posts and are always around and willing to write walls of text, as if they don’t have a job (or their job is to write $h*t here…).
I rest my case!
I’ve come to realize that the “woke” community have the biggest sheep
We were never called to unity with the world. As a Native American person with experience in the occult teachings of my own ancestors, and what seemed good at first, I have been convicted of the inherent evil in many of our practices. I would go so far to say all of it is compromised because it’s all rooted in lies. Reading Hebrews recently has helped with my acceptance of this. Severing ourselves from false teachings can be painful… it takes humility and submission to the one true living God. But he can fill that void and cause us to overflow like never before. AND through all of this, he has compassion for us!!! The chakras were very tempting for me at one point… they still are sometimes. They have let me into darkness and confusion every time. God has a way of balancing us and enlightening us by way of GRACE that we can never achieve ourselves. I write this because I care and because I’m dealing with the same resistance from my own family. I pray that all of God’s children will resist the enemy in this evil day. We are being met with temptation like we’ve never seen.
Thank you for your concern, but I assure you it is you who is creating that evil in your own mind. That’s a guarantee.
I am of Northern European heritage, and used to be interested in the beliefs of my ancestors, and like you I have rejected them. Some of the pagan “gods” of Europe include Loki, lightning, and Lugh, light, both of whom are Lucifer in another guise. Bel, the god worshipped at Beltane, is Bel Marduk, or Baal. It goes on and on like that, and i’s like that all over the world. There really is only one god, and it’s not Baal.
The new age religion always ends with the worship of self rather than God. Pride rather than humility. Pleasure rather than grace.
Pride, worship of self, and pleasure are the wide road that leads to hell.
Better to take the narrow path.
Your decision is eternal!
This has nothing to do with new age beliefs. This is age old eastern wisdom. That misconception is part of the reason I posted this. It’s sheer ignorance.
Randall, Hinduism and the teachings regarding the energy centers in your body are not about worshipping yourself. Quite the opposite. It’s about mastering yourself so that you may rise above temptation and have total control over how you use your energy, so that you can stabilize the temple within you, so that you rid yourself of any bad energy. Like every major religion, it is grounded in the worship of the Spirit of God and taking care of yourself. God helps those who help themselves. Please, destroy your ignorance. The only religion that adheres to self-worship is Satanism.
If you take the time to study this, you’ll realize it is true. The 7 churches pertain to your 7 chakras, which are rooted in the 7 sins/virtues of life. That’s why 7 letters are sent, and each one praises the church according to its corresponding function in the body, and admonishes each church according to the temptations of its respective center in the body. It speaks both to the individual and the collective. It praises the Spirit in Mankind and admonishes the egotistical desires in Mankind.
It is all about pride. You do not need God to ascend yourself to whatever level.
You are going to ascend yourself through your mighty efforts?
The problem is sin. You have the illusion that if you are just good enough through your own efforts you can ascend. Your efforts are meaningless.
Heaven is without sin. There is no sin allowed in heaven.
Everyone is born into sin and so doomed to hell from birth.
God realized this problem and created a way to heaven through Jesus.
Jesus can wipe away all sins but you have to go through him.
If sins were dirt, you are playing in the dirt pretending that you can rise above the dirt without a bath. It is futile. And it is self-worship because you are placing yourself as saviour instead of the real saviour.
You’re making lots of assumptions.
Christ, the savior, is within us all. Look inside.
This isn’t true. There are many ways of experimenting the “new age religion” as you say. Some people do it with humility and other ones lose themselves, which I think can apply to Christianity as well. I wonder how some people can preach the truth, and at the same time be so narrow minded and blind to many aspects of reality.
I’m seeing much more derision, bias, and superstition than I am seeing understanding.
Why is that? Why do you perceive evil where there is none?
It’s pure fanatism. They will never convince anybody when imposing a truth. Just like some others would impose the truth that men can get pregnant.
Hey its Oprah
Good. Discussions are being had, not just agreements.
I agree
Beautiful irony lol
Thank you for this post ceetruth. I see a lot of fanatism here, or people preaching a truth that they can’t expose or explain themselves. I learnt something recently which is that there is a huge difference between being mistrustful and vigilant. And I think that’s the purpose and part of this website’s name as well. Discussing on this website can be frustrating because sometimes you’ll come across people who pretend to detain absolute truth (which I’d call fanatism) and will explain you that you’re a devil worshiper if you don’t fit their way of seeing the world. I am against dictatorship of thought in any form and that’s why I came here initially.
To the person who is downvoting : would you care to discuss why ?
Your last couple of sentences describe the exact problem. You get it. There are many different ways of perceiving the world, and many different ways to discern and understand God, to the degree of our human intelligence. That’s why we use sacred symbolism, to retain that knowledge for future seers, while shielding it from the eyes of those who would either misuse it or are not ready for it yet.