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Red and Blue Color Meaning Lucifer Freemason, Illuminati Symbolism

Red and Blue Color Meaning Lucifer Freemason, Illuminati Symbolism

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milo
milo
1 year ago

In this video we see that satanism actually comes from the bible!
There was also this duality Jesus/God versus Antichrist/Satan that made me wonder, are we just the other side of the coin? does this make sens? does Satan even exist?

rick
rick
1 year ago
Reply to  milo

There has to be an entity to push it and to promote it, to teach it, to make it flourish. We, humanity, did not learn to do evil things all by ourselves.

It all started with Satan and the forbidden knowledge he taught Man. He, and many before him, are purveyors of evil.

Don’t look to far into the rabbit hole!

Last edited 1 year ago by rick
Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  rick

So Satan taught humans to do evil things along with forbidden knowledge right?
Can you go a bit up in the chain and tell us who created Satan? taught Satan evil? forbidden knowledge? …
Do you have an idea what are talking about? let’s start by asking you to please define first what do you mean by “Satan”?

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

If man had no temptations, man would likewise have no choice.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

And why is that? who’s forcing you to make choices? who is tempting you?

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

Do you comprehend free will? Free will means choices, for good or not. No one is forcing anyone. That’s the entire point.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

What do you mean by free will? decisions you make under the influence of everything around you? your past? parameters in your life you think you control …

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

Why do you seek to complicate something so straightforward? Free will is certainly impacted by our past experiences and current understandings, but that is why we determine to continuously grow, ask and seek.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  milo

You are right milo, this whole thing a good cop bad cop scam… and this is the exact purpose of all the so called holy books! People have hard time admitting it but in fact Satanism is a branch of Christianity!
I feel so sorry for people who beLIEve in that weak masochist Santa Clause looking God sending his ONLY child to be lynched in order to forgive humanity … The way they define and imagine god in their brain is such a pitiful non-sens!
They spend the whole time praying and yet no one can clearly give you an answer when you ask, please tell me who’s God, YHWH or whatever?!
Many people in the website are fanatics with brains full of such bulls*t, please don’t let them corrupt your judgment

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

Satanism completes Christianity, without it what’s the point of beLIEving in religions!

Airplane Clouds
Airplane Clouds
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

Yep, it’s a necessary programming tool…..

branch
branch
1 year ago

Wrong!

 At 1:50 the presenter claims that Esther 1:6 is describing Solomon’s temple, and it having two pillars; one red and the other blue.

 He states : “In this chapter we are getting a clear description of Solomon’s temple”

In truth, Esther 1:1-6 is describing the Persian palace in Shushan – Not Solomon’s temple!

“1 Now it came to pass in the days of Ahasuerus, (this is Ahasuerus which reigned, from India even unto Ethiopia, over an hundred and seven and twenty provinces:)
2 That in those days, when the king Ahasuerus sat on the throne of his kingdom, which was in Shushan the palace,
3 In the third year of his reign, he made a feast unto all his princes and his servants; the power of Persia and Media, the nobles and princes of the provinces, being before him:
4 When he shewed the riches of his glorious kingdom and the honour of his excellent majesty many days, even an hundred and fourscore days.
5 And when these days were expired, the king made a feast unto all the people that were present in Shushan the palace, both unto great and small, seven days, in the court of the garden of the king’s palace;
6 Where were white, green, and blue, hangings, fastened with cords of fine linen and purple to silver rings and pillars of marble: the beds were of gold and silver, upon a pavement of red, and blue, and white, and black, marble.”

– Esther 1:1-6
 
 
On the outskirts of the city of Shush in western Iran lie the remains of Shushan, winter palace of the kings of Persia and the setting of the Bible book of Esther.
Esther was the Jewish queen of the Persian King Ahasuerus.

Solomon’s temple had two pillars but they were not red and blue.

Martin
Martin
1 year ago

My forty old well known french encyclopedic Larousse dictionary (I have dictionaries in different languages) states that Jesus was called lucifer until the middle ages O_o, that in the article about lucifer, but it doesn’t state it in the Jesus article… too shocking I guess.

Add to that that some early Christians venerated a serpent and called it… Jesus. This seems unbelievable until you dig in and see what it’s all about: very likely celestial bodies interacting and the incredible electric plasma figures that they produced (earth’s magnetosphere included). Lucifer being, the light bearer, the flame holder, the morning star, a more than likely reference to the planet venus (doesn’t necessarily means that Jesus is venus, in my opinion it’s a construction based on fundamental archaic myths).

To introduce anyone who wants to dig in this theme I think the best way is to start by searching for images of the famous squatter man petroglyph, sometimes depicted with the unmistakably two dots, one on each side, figure that can be found around the world.

Once you know of what it represents, as without any doubt renowned plasma physicist Anthony Peratt clearly showed us in his papers (you can easely find them and verify his credibility in wikipedia) you can search for the “israel antiquities authority” logo. See that two dots on each side of their beloved figure? Not to mention that candelabrum like figures can be found on opposites sides of the world… This is only one of the countless clues that can be added to confirm that the skies were once “crazy”, displaying all kind of strange figures. Add to that the cataclysms that accompanied the apperance of this fantastic figures and it’s no wonder that it gave rise to countless cults.

About the red and blue colors (and white…) they can be seen on some pictographs depicting a kind of a star shaped figure. No certitude if it indeed represents how our ancestors saw venus at a given time (the most beautiful until it went crazy…) but it seems likely that this was the origin of many flag colors. This also may be the origin of the purple dawn myth but that’s another subject ;). Regarding the freemasons they are nothing more than another cult based on this extraordinary events so no wonder that it’s full of the fundamental symbols.

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin

You’ve given me a couple of things to research, thank you. Is “squatter man” linked to menorah?
Purple dawn already is linking some things in my mind.

Last edited 1 year ago by lgageharleya
444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

@Igageharleya

Look at the story of Delilah. The name means “Door to the Night,” and Lilah, like Lilith/Lilutu (Babylonian name meaning “Ghost of the Sun,”) has always been the color LILAc or Tyrrean purple.

People who encounter extraterrestrials often report experiencing seeing “lilac,” the high energy boundary color of our vision.

This is one of the things not at all reported in this video, which appears to be produced by someone who is becoming aware but only marginally studied in the topics:

Red is the lowest energy, longest wavelength of the visible spectrum, while Blue is the highest energy, shortest wavelength of the spectrum: these colors mark the boundaries of our human visible a perception on the electromagnetic radiation spectrum.

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

Thank you, I will look into all of this and pray for understanding. I watched a video recently on cymatics and they overlaid several patterns in succession and it created a human infant’s face. We are made from clay and water, primarily, and watching how sound frequencies can impact matter this directly (another video showed land mass formation and even levitation) is profound. I had no idea, but it explains to me rudimentarily how each individual’s existence is inevitable.
To see lilac is to mesh the highest and lowest energies and meld them. It is interesting, as I compare it to what I’ve learned on mind control programming.

Last edited 1 year ago by lgageharleya
444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Red and Blue are not all energies, but rather the bounds of the human visual spectrum. That’s why they are the “pillars” in Esther, who is a representation of ISHTAR. The eastern Star. Or the Delilah, the lilac door to the night; being able to see “in the dark,” is at the core foundation of Luciferianism; to have perception beyond your physical eyes.

For example: radio waves are light, as are microwaves, and infrared, but your eyes cannot see them because their frequencies/wavelengths are outside the bounds of the detection capabilities of your eyes. Some animals can detect ultraviolet, and even rarely, some humans who have a mutation for a fourth cone.

In Luciferianism to pass into the temple is to see beyond these bounds of our physical eyes, hence the “one eye,” to develop sight of the unseen. That’s why the first stage is called “blue lodge,” masonry.

rick
rick
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

So this is achieving Godliness? Going beyond the visual boundaries of man, red and blue.

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

Yet we must see and hear beyond our senses in order to understand Truth, as well. Is the difference that theirs is a formulaic, mechanical process while ours is a questioning? @444gem

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

It is paramount to remember that Luciferianism is a corruption of The Truth. This means that they understand many ways of the deeper understandings, but have succumbed to the temptations. Look to the temptations of Yeshua in the dessert.

One who awakens, will find themselves in the dessert; alive, barren, empty and struggling. A passage of a period after awakening in which we all suffer from “disconnecting from the matrix,” so to speak in modern parlance. During this time we are offered the opportunity to use this awakening to go down two paths; the two paths that diverge in the wood:

Or we may accept the temptations of Lucifer, of earthly comfort/pleasure (bread from stones), ego glorification (flying atop the temple), and earthly power, or we may refuse them all and then utilise our gifts as an abdi of Alef Tav. A servant of YHWH and The Truth.

Abdi = the 4th word of Malachi 4:4
Alef Tav is the 4 word of Berashid 1:1

444 a servant of Alef Tav, who is the first and last and all that is: Eyheh Asher Eyheh.

We see in Yeshua’s path, blessed is Hei, that rather than accepting the temptation he chose to utilise them to commit similar feats, but in service to YHWH, he did not give stones and serpents for those hungry for bread and fish (this is a clear passage look it up) but multiplied the fish and bread! He did not fly atop the temple in angels wings, he walked in The Waters of Truth of YHWH to show others the power of True Faith. He did not become of any earthly power, but rather the most powerful king for all ages that commands nobody by force!!

Do you understand? Of course the Luciferians understand more Truth and reality than the zombies which sleep, whose eyes see and do not perceive, whose ears hear but do not understand (hence the use of parables); instead they have chosen to use their awakenibg to reality by bending their knee before the temptations of Lucifer.

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@lgageharleya

see above

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

I love this question lgageharleya, because i see here your subconscious mind fighting back 444guru’s indoctrination. Just look how bad his answer was!The same way we cannot taste food with our eyes, truth has an energetic nature, and to be able to sens it we need to discover our energetic nature…
444guru can impress you with his math tricks, gematria, his mastery of hebrew, ancien greek, old books… and a lot of other fancy science, but he cannot teach you to connect with your energetic self, and this is where the journey to truth starts!

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

This may be how you perceive my question, @Netto, but I assure you you miss the mark. This is the fining of understanding, to lend clarity and to discern the trickery at a far more subtle level. The serpent is so entwined it is sometimes hard to tell which is which. As scripture tells us, Lucifer comes as an angel of light and great beauty and might deceive even the elect, were that possible.
And Gem was the first person to set me on the pathway to changing my energy and to creating new neural pathways and connections, to think in entirely new ways and to trust myself and my perceptions. So, you still either have not actually read his material and hundreds (possibly thousands) of responses to others in comments, or you fail utterly to comprehend his messages.
Also, my question was more for clarity for others who may be reading as well, because I know my initial frustration and confusion when what is called “Luciferian” so closely resembles what I felt we are supposed to do as faithful believers. Truth is truth, no matter who says it. It is the intent and application of that truth that is the real dividing line.

Last edited 1 year ago by lgageharleya
Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Waw! Monkeys had such an impact on your brain! I guess VL needs to add parental advisory logo into 444 posts!
The problem is that seeing truth as some sort of game of thrones struggle between YHWH and Lucifer where you absolutely need to take part is blinding you from the truth! you cannot have an energetic reflection with such a crazy polarity going on in your mind, influencing your whole thinking process!

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

Actually the polarization in my thinking is diminishing to nil, but thanks for your concern.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

In that case, No polarization means YHWH = SATAN right?

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

How do you find that to be a logical outcome?
I don’t have much time for this today, honestly, but things exist as they exist. The polarization has far more to do with our miscomprehensions and our emotional reactions for not understanding. They are manipulable, and readily manipulated.

Last edited 1 year ago by lgageharleya
444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto

Let us recall that you have repeatedly stated that YHWH must be satanic based on a G00g@l search screenshot you posted, that the scriptures are satanic, and now you assert that The Truth is purely from ones own “energetic nature.” How have you forgotten the ineffable creator?

The New Age is a dangerous path to soft luciferianism: To deny the ineffable creator and assert that only one’s own energy is the only Truth, sits at the core of the first initiation into luciferianism, pure egotism which erases the ineffable creator oh so subtly, and installs self worship.

It is wise to speak with Father, for Hei is The Truth.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

Indeed 444, i don’t see the difference between your YHWH and Lucifer, because both of them complete each other in a well crafted Yin Yang called RELIGION to divide and mentally enslave humanity!
Larousse needs to be more accurate Martin, and also include YHWH…
I answered milo in a comment above, but i can repeat it here:
“I feel so sorry for people who beLIEve in that weak masochist God sending his ONLY child to be lynched in order to forgive humanity … The way they define and imagine god in their brain is such a pitiful non-sens!
They spend the whole time praying and yet no one can clearly give you an answer when you ask, please tell me who’s God, YHWH or whatever?!”
On top you are accusing me of denying the creator! i am not denying my creator, i am rejecting your definition! the image you are lecturing about the creator! An autistic YHWH in dire need of 444 and the whole Aryah team, prophets, and insane books to communicate with his own creatures!
You are part of that duality/rivalry game: Aryeh against the dragons! Lucifer against YHWH! Anti-Christ against Yeshua… video games can be made out of it!…
Can you also explain what do you mean by New Age? I absolutely don’t advocate for such creepy sects!

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

Why do you never actually tag him, @Netto? @444gem, thought you should know this is being said with the appearance as if you might see it and just fail to respond, should you have any desire to.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Because when i tag or use @ the website blocks the comment. That’s why!

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

HAHAHA!

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto

The forum doesn’t block tagged comments. It does have some pretty random trip words like G00g@l which make comment require approval, which I assume is because of SEO, but no, not for tagging people.

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto

It saddens me to see you have lost all faith, that you run down such a dark path, full of false mirrors, pointing fingers with no comprehension, grasping at the false dualities you misperceive due to having lost all connection with Father. The shadows of lonliness of seperation from the ineffable creator cloud your eyes, and you scream into the darkness.

Likewise, stop painting me with the brush of how you perceive “christianity,” which is: the AntiXristos. The Truth is not found in an oppulent church, nor in the words of a costumed, haughty priest and his crackers, nor in a myriad of cargo cult symbolism, nor in dogmas and liturgies, nor in gruesome effigies, nor prohiibtive moral codes. The Truth is found in speaking with the Father, in asking seeking and knocking to receive with humility. Have you ever cried because you received a gift nobody else could ever see, nor touch, nor ever take away? I often do.

Equally, your perception of duality between the Aryeh Yehudah and the Dragons, is a fantastic misconception. We have taught throughout the ages, as shepherds and servants of YHWH, that humanity may be free of a purely animalistic nature, and make its choice for its own destiny; this is at the foundation of the gift of YHWH: Free Will, the right to choose our fate and destiny.

It is certain that a portion of humanity self-coalesced to worship Lucifer and, has taken this knowledge we offered, learned much of it, and then twisted it into a dark and sickly form, and hoarded the truth into channeling it for the power of military command, mass deception, cargo kult mind control, destruction of their environment, and the reduction and mass enslavement of their peoples. Yet, they have only been able to do so by the consent of the rest of humanity, who chooses Ba-Ra-Abban, the convenience of blinding light, over the more difficult Truth, the Path to The Way.

This is what is meant by the betrayal of Yeshua being used to purchase tombs for foreigners from the potter; these priests of heliopolis, the Pharisees, the sun worshippers, took a construction built with scalar technology, which explains scalar relativity, and provides energy and turned it into cargo kultery of the most abominable kind.

Now, you once again call for censorship on my words (third time now), and you claim I advocate for the creator as an autistic, bumbling child in need of us on his train set to feel loved. How foolish that you reflect your own lonliness into YHWH. You do not read what I write, but lunge at smoke you blow from your own shadows and anger, which to some degree is understandable given the extraordinary deception you are waking up from; I am not your enemy, and I am not here to hurt you, or take from you, but rather to offer an honest conversation and help whoever wishes along their path with freely given council, which they must ponder and contemplate for themselves.

The creator does not need us; we need Heim. And So we choose to serve Heim, the breathe of all, in order to offer help to humanity.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@444gem,
I have nothing against you personally, i just see your ideas lunatic and brain damaging for many vulnerable people out there faithfully following you!
I don’t need faith, i have CERTAINTY! we are all in an eternal state of connection with our creator, we are alive because our creator is infusing life in our souls (as well as every living soul) in every moment of our lives, and this is how we are maintained alive! of course we need food, water and sleep to keep our bodies alive, but our souls are nourished in a completely different way! once a human starts connecting with his energetic self, perceiving the energetic side of life, then his connection to the divine will naturally manifest to him and there is “NO NEED FOR ANY MIDDLEWARE”.
Of course you will hate and deny my vision of the creator because it gives you no chance to set up your Business of “shepherds and servants of YHWH”!
Your magic word for manipulation is definitely “faith”, you need people to believe in your rhetoric because believing means morally committing, and it radically changes a person! as pointed out by lgageharleya in a previous comment: “…creating new neural pathways and connections, to think in entirely new ways…”! because playing with faith is playing with emotions! and once people are impressed, they become engaged, and their emotions take over their thinking and they switch into a “sponge brain” mode in order to understand and adopt your way of thinking! just like changing the OS of a computer! At the beginning they are full into it with high motivation until they find out they are again in a never ending merry-go-round with each and every time new useless non-sens to learn!

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto

To your surprise, we share the same understanding of the ineffable creator as you laid forth here.

What is it I urge people to do? To speak with YHWH out loud, alone in nature. To bathe in the sea and stare up into the sky and listen to Heim. To contemplate and reflect on their own and to confront themselves.

Do I tell them to come to my church service, pay me money, and blindly follow my words? It seems you are confusing me, who gives away everything for free, makes no attempts at power or control, and has no costume, or temple; with the horrible Re-Legionists and the antiXristos.

And this shows exactly why shepherds, not middle men, are important: while we are born completely connected with YHWH, many become lost in their fears, anger, pain, and suffering, brought about by the wicked ways of the world, and lose sight of this connection. If we see that those we care for are (spiritually) injured, should we not tend to them so that they may heal? If wicked wolves come to feast upon the naive and injured if the flock, should we not offer them protection? offering free to help, with no expectation of return, to the wounded is not being a middle person between them and YHWH.

You keep verbally punching the shadow of the wicked religionists, and claimibg this is who I am. If you had eyes to see, if your wounds inflicted by the wicked, were healed, you would have already clearly seen that we share a truly common vision.

You would see that I am not your enemy, and I am certainly not running a business! Giving away thousands of hours of my time in responding to people I’ve never met, for free, is a terrible “business,” model my friend.

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@Netto

Let’s also look at the word you have used LUNAtic.

The word in English comes most proximately from Latin, where the word LUNA means “moon.” The reference is quite literally to those of the cult of Dea Luna, the female lunar deity of Rome who was depicted equally as Ashtarte/Ashterith, wearing “two horns and a mouth like a dragon.” Again referencing a Saros. As is forewarned of in Revelations.

A LUNA-ATTIS, a “Lunatic” is quite literally in reference to the followers of the kult of the Great Mother, Attis (Hy”Attis” like the Hyades) and her astrotheological aspect as The Moon, Luna-Atis.

Going even further back the word originates in Sumerian as: Lu-Nanna

Lu = Person or Man
Nanna = Moon

The term “Nanna,” to this day variously means Mother and LU-LUby (Lullaby) throughout the word, meaning “A song for Mother Moon.”

Quite literally you have claimed I am an ILL-limited worshipper of the great mother, which is exactly what I denounce… careful with your choice of insults.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@444gem, the way you proceed is how every “America’s next messiah” would operate:
it starts with playing the good Samaritan with the purest nicest intentions for humanity offering free counseling services, and when people start snowballing then comes the next step of “YHWH Church with celebrity Aryeh preacher 444”! It’s an extremely lucrative business 444, but it’s a long term one, and as a reward you get a whole community of obedient mental slaves in vital need for your to shepherd them to YHWH!
I’m glad you partially agree on my vision of the creator, but for me, the creator doesn’t need scriptures, bible, prophets, … to communicate with me! I don’t think you also share that with me!
Again, i have NOTHING PERSONAL against you, my problem is with “how you present your ideas”, and how you always arrogantly tag them with the word “TRUTH”,
the way you present yourself as “THE sole provider truth”! and this is indeed the definition of a Lunatic personality! Lunatics are horoscope freaks, and i see the same thing with you freaking out on astrology, gematria ,…
The only other entity i see having such an approach trying to also own truth is “Lucifer”! I’m just asking you to stop abusing the word “TRUTH” and instead simply say “my vision of truth”, “what i see right”, “the result of my research, reflection” … just own YOUR ideas and stop pretending they’re from God!

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto He calls Yeshua, Messiah Truth! Not his own words, but Yeshua’s!
You are casting aspersions against the wrong man, my friend. I have spoken with Gem since he began here at great length independent of these pages and I have seen nothing but an utter consistency in him. He ALWAYS redirects any gratitude or praise to YHVH. He ALWAYS tells me to ask Father for myself!

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

You are right that many people have impostered and masqueraded as servants of YHWH, in order to deceive and feast upon the meek; wolves and serpents are cunning, and often dress up in wool. They will be judged for their abominable acts, and your anger against them is righteous.

Yet, So lost you are in hatred that you cannot discern the honest from the wicked. You now accuse me of a thought crime, after having called for me to be censored several times, and insulted me and others at every turn, from the first comment to the last you have dripped with disdain. It seems you do not realise how much your anger and hatred makes you just like those you claim to despise: the tactics you employ are taken directly from 1984…

There is absolutely no evidence for the thought crime you accuse me of: rather it is based only upon citing the actions of others for whom I have no relationship (I’m not even American…); the same people whom I openly denounce as wicked. You accuse me falsely of the greatest abomination, to use the name of YHWH for conniving personal gain, and you make the accusation in such a way that until the day I die, you will be able to claim I am playing some evil genius game for the future.

Wake up, I’m not here to hurt you.

I do have one request: stop continually changing pseudonyms to appear as though you are not the same guy with a persecutory mania against me.

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto

Or plague or guacamole fungus, or whatever you are calling yourself now…

I take serious issue with having abominable words I have not spoken being put into my mouth. In your previous comment, as a total fabrication, you quoted me as supposedly saying I am the sole provider of Truth. What?! I have never, ever claimed to be the sole provider or owner of Truth:

The Truth is YHWH. Heis Truth belongs to nobody.

If I say, a circle measures in accordance with Pi, it is The Truth. Do I suddenly claim possession on a circle’s measurements? Am I now the sole provider of a circle’s measurements?

If one leaves Plato’s cave, and returns and says to the others “you’re looking at shadows on the wall in a cave.” Thus person is speaking The Truth. Do they need to tell the cave dwelling shadow gazers:

“I don’t own this Truth, but according to having walked outside and seen the sun and trees, it is my personal opinion that maybe, possibly, you’re inside a cave being deceived by shadows on the wall and there is this thing called the sun in the sky, but ya the sky and sun could also be imaginary, so I could wrong, but I think this is a cave you’re in.”

Or could they simply tell them they are in a cave and offer to show them the sun and sky for themselves?

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@444gem, I have nothing to do with these other pseudonyms attacking you.
Again I’m attacking SOME of your ideas NOT you!
Like for example this one: “If I say, a circle measures in accordance with Pi, it is The Truth.” well No! it’s absolutely NOT “The Truth” with capital T!
I would simply call it what it really is: an approximate measure of a physical shape by human made tools! This is a perfect example of how you subvert the word “Truth”.
Pi is an approximation not an exact number! the fact you have a finite entity “Circle”, and a finite “Radius” logically implies your magical Pi MUST be a finite and precise number! Why can’t we have a finite number of Pi? because the whole MATH is a theory built on postulates and approximations, NOT true proven facts! this calculation of Pi is a result of human intelligence, and has NOTHING to do with the creator! Absolutely no connection to the divine truth!
Another example you regularly use to argument is “genetics”: how can you draw conclusions from a science where only 1% of the genome has being “decoded”! what makes things worse is that on top of ignorance comes this horrible typically human arrogance to say that the 99% we cannot understand is “JUNK” genome! how can you trust such Science! and worse claim that’s the “divine truth”!
I’m totally fine with you making the link between the god YOU worship “YHWH” and all this science, it’s your right the same way Indians are in full right to worship cows. What i find horribly misleading is to sell all that man made stuff as “The Creator’s Truth”!

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

@Netto

You give far too little credit to the ineffable creator:

Humans didn’t make circles.
Humans didn’t make our genomes
Humans didn’t make numbers
Humans didn’t make the Earth
Humans didn’t make the Universe

You seem very confused, between the use of a word used to refer to an infinite and irrational number, Pi, and claiming humans deserve any credit for the circle’s dimensions.

We will never understand more than the little nail on the finger of YHWH. We may only approximate Pi to 10 Septillion decimal places, a large quantity to us but which is infinitesimally small next to the magnificence and perfection of YHWH, but nevertheless, we are here to learn, to grow, and this means seeking wisdom, knowledge and understanding from the breathe of YHWH.

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@Netto

My last comment to you:

I have patience for just about anything, what I don’t have patience for is words being put in my mouth I have never spoken. This last comment of yours is now the 5th or 6th time you have changed, twisted and fabricated my words in the worst possible way in only a few short conversations.

Whatever your suffering, there is no excuse for outright lying and manipulation, especially when my words are here in writing and it seems you don’t ever bother to read them, but rather consistently fabricate other statements which are twisting my words into your angry worldview.

Among the many Statements you have fabricated and shoved into my mouth, the two that I find particularly distasteful in comparison to my actual words:

1) I have said “In antiquity, Scientific inquiry and spirituality were originally part of the unified search for Truth, even though in modernity they have been split, divided and bastardised into dogmatic religions and diametrically opposed theologies for the purpose of manipulating the masses.”

You then claim I have said that “Science and religion are the same” and also claimed I seem to think modernist dogmatic science is divine Truth. Far from it, and morover, I would never use the word divine, which means “The deity of the Vine.” A reference to Diognosis, patron saint of mystery schools and Wine from the Vine. I have never said these things.

2) I have stated “The Truth is the word of the ineffable creator, free for all, and which we should share and guide one another.”

You then claimed I have said “I am the sole provider of Truth.” No I did not. And I find this utterly distasteful, and frankly disdainful to endure.

Whether or not you realise it, you have become just as the serpents you claim to despise:

1) You call for censorship constantly. Just like cancel culture, fascists, communists, and every other regime of oppressive victimhood.

2)You hurl insults at everyone, like spongebrain, lunatic, etc. and then claim they are not insults. Just like Drumpf, and every other narcissistic luciferian politician

3) You publicly twist and defame the words of those that are honest. Just as every serpent that ever manipulated the masses

4) You claim that only through energetic self knowing can one come to know the ineffable creator. Just as the New Age.

5) You claim a basic G00g@l images search is sufficient to declare the ineffable creator satanic.

6) Without actually reading one word of the scriptures you have declared them satanic as well.

As I said before I’m willing to endure all of this, because I understand and have compassion for the struggle life presents for us all. However, I am not willing to endure the constant twisting and fabrication of my words. Until you are capable of desisting in this, I feel that I cannot offer you much of anything in help.

I wish you the best, that you may find Yeshua Kavvanah, Truth in the Heart.

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lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

What are you talking about @Netto? You so dearly want to take affront you’ll come up with anything. Gem is not in any way trying to set himself up as a priest or rabbi. He tells people constantly to “go talk to YHVH”. That’s a whole lot of wildcard to allow by a greedy, self-advancing “control freak” as you constantly attempt to paint him. It’s also a sorry business practice to give all your decades of study and understandings away for free.

What are your fruits, Netto? Because I see little but toxicity, and a bit of ongoing cowardice with a boatload of bravado. I’m glad you tagged Gem this time, but you cite me in a wholly disparaging manner without the benefit of my awareness of your venom. I am praying for you in all sincerity, as I recognize that decades-long pain and how it manifests. I pray you break free from this mind/spirit vice. It is squeezing you to death.

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444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

@lgageharleya

The goddess of the cult of Dea LUNAtics… two horns and a mouth like a dragon.

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lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@444gem Yes, I saw also Hades and Inanna. My grandmother was called Nana.

Attis, is a truly disturbing history.
For anyone interested (from wiki):

An Attis cult began around 1250 BCE in Dindymon (today’s Murat Dağı of Gediz, Kütahya, Turkey). He was originally a local semi-deity of Phrygia, associated with the great Phrygian trading city of Pessinos, which lay under the lee of Mount Agdistis. The mountain was personified as a daemon, whom foreigners associated with the Great Mother Cybele.

In the late 4th century BCE, a cult of Attis became a feature of the Greek world. The story of his origins at Agdistis recorded by the traveller Pausanias have some distinctly non-Greek elements.[8]

Pausanias was told that the daemon Agdistis initially bore both male and female sexual organs. The Olympian gods feared Agdistis and they conspired to cause Agditis to accidentally castrate themself her male organ. from the hemorrhage of agdistis germinate an almond tree . When the fruits ripened, Nana, daughter of the bloody river, took an almond, put it in her bosom, and later became pregnant.later nana abandoned baby Attis. [8]

The infant was tended by a he-goat. As Attis grew, his long-haired beauty was godlike, and his parent, Agdistis (as Cybele) then fell in love with him. But Attis’ foster parents sent him to Pessinos, where he was to wed the king’s daughter.[8]

According to some versions the king of Pessinos was Midas. Just as the marriage-song was being sung, Agdistis / Cybele appeared in her transcendent power, and Attis went mad and Castrated himself under a pine. When he died, violets grew from his blood. Attis’ father-in-law-to-be, the king who was giving his daughter in marriage, followed suit, prefiguring the self-castrating corybantes who devoted themselves to Cybele. Agdistis asked Zeus to bring the young man back to life, but Zeus could only make sure that his body did not decompose, his hair continued to grow, and he moved his little finger.[8]

At the temple of Cybele in Pessinus, the mother of the gods was still called Agdistis, the geographer Strabo recounted.[9]

As neighbouring Lydia came to control Phrygia, the cult of Attis was given a Lydian context too. Attis is said to have introduced to Lydia the cult of the Mother Goddess Cybele, incurring the jealousy of Zeus, who sent a boar to destroy the Lydian crops. Then certain Lydians, with Attis himself, were killed by the boar. Pausanias adds, to corroborate this story, that the Gauls who inhabited Pessinos abstained from pork. This myth element may have been invented solely to explain the unusual dietary laws of the Lydian Gauls. In Rome, the eunuch followers of Cybele were called galli.

Julian describes the orgiastic cult of Cybele and its spread.[10] It began in Anatolia and was adopted in Greece, and eventually Republican Rome; the cult of Attis, her reborn eunuch consort, accompanied her.

Netto
Netto
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

How is this helping you to find YHWH? what’s the point of studying these pagan mythologies? the only possible use i see is if you’re preparing for JEOPARDY!

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  Netto

No, it’s because once you see the patterns, you can’t unsee them. Why are you on a VC/VL site at all if you do not see the value in this?

It shows us how far back the long game goes. Ties all their symbolism together. Proves to us what we try and wish to deny because it is so awful to believe this is happening.

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lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Maybe you didn’t require so much proof to show you to step off that track. Very glad for you, but clearly, many of us do.

rick
rick
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

Could red and blue, being two opposite extremes signify Alpha and Omega, the beggining and end?

… symbolizing the occultists achieving godliness?

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  rick

@rick

The phrase “ineffable creator,” means he cannot be FREQUENCIED. Red and blue are frequencies of light, or more deeply, information transfer of the universe.

Red and Bkue represent the Freauencies of Light at the ends of the visible spectrum; which is only a tiny portion of the light spectrum. Thus it represents passing beyond only understanding what is directly visible to the bare eye, but with a direct reference to LUCifer, the light bearer.

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin

@Martin

This is absolutely excellent. Thank you for speaking Truth.

A few points of some deeper layers:

1) The cattle church, instituted by the family of Vespasian, whom burned Jerusalem to the ground, absolutely instituted calling G-Zeus the morning star, and Lucifer, from the earliest moments they were the were given authority state religion. This is the very essence of the AntiXristos; which took the place of YHWH and replaced it with the names of the illuminator in every language, from G-Zeus, Dios, Gad, Allah, Bog, on and on… this is why those that are “without the name,” written άνομος are foretold to be judged in the next cataclysm.

2) The profoundly scientific elements of the symbols identified by electric universe theorists are stunningly accurate, yet miss one point: the Aryeh Yehudah, the HaTorah (Literally “Authors,” as it attested by Essene writings), have possessed highly advanced plasma physics and other electromagnetic/scalar technology for aeons, and these symbols, which show up in the spiritual imagery of Luciferians and their solar RE’s Legions, are indeed provenance from high energy particle physics, but not solely from atmospheric plasma events of Solar Flares during the previous Kata – Astro – Phi. They are sourced originally from forms produced high technology Plasma Generators, somewhat similar to the modern “Tochemach.” They also contain the mathematical encodings of energy radiation and the fine structure constant which governs universal mechanics and scalar relativity.

3) The Luciferians have systematically hoarded this knowledge, in part because of their previous own self destruction by weaponising the technology they stole, so they may once again repeat the cycle.

username
username
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

I’m waiting on your book .. xD

arif
arif
1 year ago
Reply to  username

I am excited too @username

By the way, @444gem

Do you need a personal assistant?

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
1 year ago
Reply to  arif

Wow, jealous if he says yes 🙂
But that would be awesome!

444Gem
444Gem
1 year ago
Reply to  arif

@arif

Thank you for offering help. This means the world to me. I don’t need a personal assistant so to speak, but I certainly could use help however possible.

Do you have an email I can contact you at?

arif
arif
1 year ago
Reply to  444Gem

@444gem you can contact me via

ariefhadiyan@gmail dot com

rick
rick
1 year ago

Interesting, there is red and blue all around us, from police lights to the two party system.