Q: “I would like to know what you can say to reassure us that this election will not be rigged or stolen?”
Obama: “It helps in Ohio we have Democrats in charge of the machines… Whenever people are in power, they have a tendency to tilt things in their direction.” pic.twitter.com/uok0VsxxEl
— Abe Hamadeh War Room (@AbeWarRoom) August 13, 2023
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That is the opposite of reassuring
predatorpatrol
40 Votes
Why am I not reassured?
I feel sorry for anyone who believes in elections!
election = entertainment
I’m so sick and tired of it! I like how you refer to it as EnterTainMent.
Let’s all shut our TVs off, stop voting, stop buying useless crap, stop applying “make believe” to useless items in this reality and let’s start living life like it was supposed to be lived!
I vote, for these reasons. If your ship is leaning so far to the starboard side that it’s in danger of capsizing, it’s wise to move your weight to the port side. If the port leaders are also evil and corrupt, at least they don’t have the momentum on their side, some the results of their flavor of evil will take longer than if the starboard side wins. However, even if the port can’t win because of fraud, the more people vote on that “port side”, the more obvious election fraud will be. The 2020 election fraud would not have been so obvious to so many people if the turnout was much lower. It’s important that more people understand that we’re not getting the leaders that get the majority of votes. Why is it important? My takeaway from Machiavelli’s Prince is that no matter the form of government, the people are a political force. But, if the people disengage, they’ll be a less significant force. Your telling people to not vote, when voting is do easy, is effectively telling them to disengage and give up their power.
It doesn’t matter which side of the boat were on….
It’s the same damned boat!!
I want off this boat and I want to roam free!
Voting is choosing from two bad choices, which is no choice at all. Each side plays upon the other, to convince each respective ‘party’ members that they are the good guy and the bad guy is the other guy. Or gal.
In the end, all it does is keep the status quo of division so the powers that be can continue their pillaging of the land.
Divide and conquer is all the know.
If people would stop being part of the problem…it would help. Voting is part of a broken system kept in place by people who do not care about us in the least.
I’m in the middle. I am all about voting in city and county elections. Voting at the state level and above is typically voting for the uniparty.
Though Trump is different. I’m no apologist by any means, but they hate him so badly, it makes me think he is not part of the machine. I mean he lost to Hillary, Queen of the Machine; that had to be a huge slip-up.
Trump was groomed by Roy Cohn. Cohn did what Jeffrey Epstein did, but a generation before. Trump then became friends with Epstein. He’s evil to the core.
So far nobody who responded to me addressed the point I made about Machiavelli.
Remember, Trump had a disgusted look on the mask of his face in Eyes Wide Shut. He reportedly only flew with Epstein state side a few times. Even if he did do questionable things with women, he repented of that unlike those in the media screaming about Trump to distract us from what they themselves are hypocritically participating in!
@M313X Machiavelli Prince is a book for the ruling class not the people.
Politics is like a casino, the only winner is the establishment. The whole game is a fraud, so when people vote, they are committing to a scam, they’re in fact losing power! because the whole purpose of the political system is to “divide and reign”, to dilute people’s power. The power of the people comes form a strong culture, unity, revolution, the aptitude to say NO to the ruling class, and an election is a process meant to contain that.
Do you really think that a common citizen can learn nothing about people power from reading a letter to a prince about how the power of political leadership works?
Unless we citizens of the USA successfully revolt, and as long as we remain citizens and live in the USA, we cannot escape the system here. So we must play the game, toward reform or revolution. Disengaging is simply a bad move in the game. No matter what form of government you’re under, disengaging is a bad move.
In 2012 a few supporters of Ron Paul published, online, statistics of the results of the Republican primary, showing clear anomalies that can only reasonably be explained by vote switching or ballot stuffing. Only a very small percentage of people learned of this, and of those few people nobody that I heard said that it was done to rob Rick Santorum of the nomination, giving Obama the easier opponent, Mitt Romney. The powers behind this fraud screwed Santorum in the primaries because fixing the vote against him in the general election would have been too obvious. In the primaries, they were able to steal from many candidates and give to Romney, rather than stealing from his one opponent. They were sly so that the citizenry would stay as calm as sheep in a pasture. They didn’t want to agitate us. They prefer their evil to be insidious, like how the Devil led Dr. Faust to his demise. A low voter turnout would have made their job even easier!
The large turnout in the 2020 general election made the fraud obvious to a larger percentage of the citizens who, instead of acting like complacent sheep, became quite agitated! I think that that percentage is still not large enough to excite real, positive change for the better. I hope you agree that an agitated citizenry is a necessary prerequisite to change for the better, whether by reform or revolution. I just can’t understand the thinking that says that agitation from clearly seeing election fraud is bad but agitation from letting the politicians and their dutiful police destroy us is good.
Voting isn’t a silver bullet; I never implied that it is. In this constitutional republic voting is a bare minimum toward anything that’s better. If there’s going to be reform or a revolution away from a corrupt democratic republic and toward something better, it will, in my estimation, start sooner and stronger if a large percentage of voters clearly see that they’re being screwed by election fraud than if a large percentage doesn’t see election fraud but waits for the agitation which comes from the results of horribly immoral governance.
Wow. Evil. All of the politicians are corrupt. ALL of them.
Uh… he didnt lose that election. He became, uh, president for four years. Were you asleep?
“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?”
My last sentence, “Your telling people to not vote…”, should have been aimed at Airplane Clouds. But it’s really aimed at everyone who discourages voting.
I don’t think you get it. There are forces at play that are higher than the government. So it doesn’t really matter which side is in charge.
Yeah those apathetic ppl who don’t care anymore because they’ve seen it replayed over decades and decades.
Nothing ever changes. If you think that system works to any degree – I don’t know what to say to you.
It’s always been selection not election.
that’s misleading, what he was trying to relay is that republicans tend to sway votes in their own way, in unethical ways, since they have a reputation for that, like for example , the brother of bush jr (then governor of florida) who stole votes from Al Gore in florida during bush jr’s second election (Al Gore 2000 presidential campaign), there have been multiple news reports, documentaries and movies about it!
Also, the notorious Republican tool for stealing votes, a thing called Gerrymandering!!, or another tool like demanding lots of IDs for minorities at voting booths, to discourage them from voting!!
As well another famous tool, robocall, giving false information, be it about their opponents, election dates, or polling booth locations…etc, etc, etc…
Hence why the speech of ‘Obama was cut short, in this tiny clip, to give the false impression that it is Obama talking about corrupting the electoral system, when he was saying the exact opposite. So your little propaganda clip proves his point even more, that Republicans are corrupt to the core, that’s why they’re always on the attack…they used to bite, but now they’re barking more than they bite, so much have they lost their credibility vis-à-vis the public (Nixon, reagan, the Bushes, trump, not to mention all the republican scandals in congress, so congressmen, congresswomen, senators, not to mention their entourage , etc etc etc.)!!
so, yes, Obama speaks knowingly!
But keep the propaganda machine going…!
Oh yeah, forgot, -Jan 6-, from the one and only, Orang-a-tang trump!
That was original, at least for democratic countries, in autocratic countries, it’s just the routine!
Republicans asking for IDs for proof of citizenship to prevent voter fraud isn’t racist. If one is not smart enough to get an ID, that’s their fault.
It is when its targeted, at specific voters, you dig!
Democrats allow 30+ million illegals into this country to become the future Dem voting bloc, but apparently you’re able to overlook that, the biggest election fraud in world history, without batting an eye. You think the neocons rigging things in favor of faux-Republican Dubya (who is absolutely loathed among true conservatives) proves the right are the REAL cheaters.
Must be nice to have leftist amorality. Time to exit your fantasy world.
“The Democrats are allowing over 30 million illegals into this country to become the future Democratic electoral bloc”
Sure!… any proof of that? And don’t give me dubious sources…
“You think the neocons who rig things in favor of fake Republican Dubya (who is absolutely hated among true conservatives) are proving them right are the REAL cheaters.”
Of course, that’s why they voted him in – TWICE! But these are only details, so as not to be bothered by..
oh, and by the way, bush jr, is just a drop in the bucket, check out the semi-complete list in my original post… but don’t want to get between you and your fantasy world, the vigilance citizenry are for the rest of us…
“Must be nice to have leftist amorality.”
did you miss the part that only a quarter of americans voted for trump that’s 3/4 of americans didn’t vote for him in the first election! And he LOST in the second election, that means MOST AMERICANS didn’t vote for him!!!
you also missed the part that most republicans dissociated from and denounced him, even his own children, try to read a full post next time, and try to follow current events, or at least be in contact with reality from time to time, trumpy !
the greatest election fraud in the history of the world is coming from your party, for the reasons i mentioned above, it must be nice to have the amorality, blindness and wickedness of trump cultists . Better NOT leave your fantasy world.
you and rosey just proved my point, yet again! Thnx!
+1.
Wear the minus votes as crown.
thanx!!
they talk out of both sides of their mouth, on one side they denounce both parties (as seen in the comments above), but on the other side of their mouth they denounce anyone who criticizes their guru trump!
hypocrites!
No I think he was quite clear here saying both sides did it. Whether you like it or not in the West we live under autocracy posing as democracy. It’s always been a one party system. They agree on almost everything and have their lil fights but be sure of that nothing ever moves forward or improves for most ppl.
Do not have heroes in politicians. They are demons. Or at very least bad people.
no, he didn’t, it was very clear in the complete version that he denounces the Republicans… for their notoriety (for the reasons mentioned above!)
also check the definition of tds, before throwing accusations at anyone who criticizes your guru!!
However, you should check your obsession with Trump, as many Republicans now disassociate themselves from him, except for his cultist supporters!
trump;
i’ll even at this from M313X (above)
” Trump was treated by Roy Cohn. Cohn did what Jeffrey Epstein did, but a generation earlier. Trump then became friends with Epstein. He is evil to the core.”
my trump denunciation was just a spec in the full post, you deliberately left all of that to cling to that one line over your precious guru trump! willfully blind!
do your homework, before commenting!
and spitting out lies and false accusations only further proves my point!
don’t forget to send him your money to support him, he needs it all please!!
and while you’re at it, buy a pillow from Mike the pillow guy, just to help you rest your conscience!
And when is the next meeting for the republicans candidates at bohemian grove!? just asking..
funny how they chose a blue state to hold their boys club meeting, how ironic..!
Also I think you may want to get that TDS looked at.
Asking for ID to prevent voter fraud isn’t racist. If one isn’t smart enough to get an ID or is an illegal citizen, that’s their fault.
Just like i responded to your alter -ego pseudo above..
It is when its targeted, at specific voters, you dig!
Responded to my what??
My what?
The law had always stated that you need to be a citizen to vote. You don’t obey the law, there are consequences. That’s how it’s supposed to work.
again,
NOT when its targeted, at specific voters!
Ask again, i’ll answer the same, in case its takes you several repeats to get it!
trump;
You saying that this rule is targeting specific voters and that is racist seems to me you are suggesting that black people are incapable of getting an ID, which is racist..