rick
Recently, scientists have used a new x-ray technique to date the Shroud of Turin to arouns the time of Jesus Christ some 2000 years ago.
This new finding disproves the findings in the 1980’s debuking the shroud being from the middle ages.
From the article:
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Also known as the Holy Shroud, it bears a faint image of the front and back of a bearded man, which many believers is Jesus’ body miraculously imprinted onto the fabric.
But research in the 1980s appeared to debunk the idea it was real after dating it to the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after Christ’s death.
Now, Italian researchers who used a new technique involving x-rays to date the material have confirmed it was manufactured around the time of Jesus about 2,000 years ago.
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Things are starting to get a but interesting in the invisible war between Good and evil.
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It points to being real. Also, how does a dead body imprint on a sheet wrap or does it only imprint on a white sheet?
I believe the print is from radiation. In Buddhism they call this ‘the rainbow body’ the radiation of divine light.
They may of course call it that. Even false doctrines can be correct about some things.
Why is Buddhism false doctrine? If anything its teachings strengthen and validate Christianity?
Only by contrast, Simon.
Like a burned in image.
@rick
Yes, actually burned in a way. It is a produced negative image (like photography) from exposure of silver nitrate brushed onto the shroud, and then exposed to sunlight; the compound was rolled over the body of a middle aged Hungarian that underwent his own “passion” death as a form of devotion. The compound then darkened to produce a negative when it was exposed to sunlight. This is one of the early processes used in modern photography.
Silver Nitrate and its effects upon light were known almost certainly since ancient times. They were, however, known commonly in medieval Europe after Albertus Magnus, a German Lick friar, documented its chemical existence in the 1200s. The shroud appears about 150 years after this.
@444gem
How do you know that the man was Hungarian? That’s oddly specific.
@sempervigilans
It is specific. There are various reasons one can, from simply publicly available studies, begin to narrow down the provenance to a Hungarian:
1) Facial recognition software routinely recognizes the facial traits as common to the areas of the Hungarian Empire in the 12th century.
2) The Blood type tested came back as AB, which was most common in the Hungarian empire at the time due to Asian influx in the region.
3) The history of certain Hungarian orders of Xtian converts includes burial/death rites involving reproducing the the events of the passion as a form of devotion.
From there you can track the order of events in the appearance of the shroud. I will give you some clues for your own research:
1) Look to the history of the Knighrs Templar in Vrana, which was then Hungarian, and a Knights Templar stronghold. Look at its connections to Byzantium, the crusades, and France.
2) Upon the disbandment of the templars in the early 1300s, their organisation and its belongings passed almost directly to the Hospitaliers in Hungary.
3) There is an important knights Templar stronghold that also passed directly to the hospitaliers in France, a rarer state of affairs than in Hungary, which is located only 30km from the place of appearance of the shroud.
4) You should also look at which group directly benefited economically from the shroud, and their specific history.
Happy hunting
@444gem
Interesting. I thought that someone managed to get a DNA sample from the shroud, I guess this was an easier way to discover this.
I don’t know much about blood types and their relation to genetics, except that it can be inherited and that the Japanese use it as a form of horoscope. Where can I learn more about which type is most common in other nations? And do they really affect someone’s personality as the Japanese believe? Perhaps this has some relation to heraldry?
@semoervigilans
No, they’ve never done a modern genetic sequencing… because that would definitively dispel the lucrative myth. They gave a blood sample under very strict terms decades ago, and only allows blood typing and to show it had a Y haplogroup.
Keep in mind that the Templars considered themselves bloodliners, often called “Desposini.” In fact, a few were, others were descendants of the half brother James (what became the Red Child family, and the connection with Templar banking) and others had some ascendent from the 24 Zadokite high priests dating from the era of the Sun Kings (aka “SolAmon.”)
See picture below of a seal dug from the so called “city of David,” bearing the seal of Hezekiah and the winged sun disk with the Ankh.
@sempervigilans
See above
@444gem
Interesting, it is as you said before, the group you call Dragons are your fallen cousins and they again did what they do – twist and hide the truth. I wonder how they have fallen while many others like Moses did not – and he grew up in the Pharaoh’s house where he has probably seen some pretty dark things.
Perhaps they were blind to God’s magnificence? Like St. Paul with scales on his eyes, but they luckily fell off.
I feel a bit blind too lately, but I have thankfully managed to resist great evil when it came in a dream to tempt me. Like no matter what I do I cannot see some things, like I need to step above reason. Reason alone cannot grasp everything, it cannot grasp that which is infinite.
The thing is I’m not really sure any method besides prayer is safe, I am hesitant to attempt anything. I know God has saved and helped me every time I needed Him, but I feel like I’m blind to him, I cannot see Him. I want to see and reach out to Him, but I don’t know what to do besides prayer and researching. It does make me quite sad sometimes.
@sempervigilans
Send me an email and we can talk more about this. Stay strong my friend
@sempervigilans
Sure thing
@444gem
Many thanks, I look forward to hearing from you.
Meditate on Heim. Works for me.
Satan can even turn himself into an angel of light. This is luciferians making it up. Read my comment posted below please. Thanks.
Not buying it, they pushed this everywhere for a reason I think I saw 4 or 5 different links about it in 2 hours. First of all there’s no way to know who the body was, several people would get killed this way it wasn’t some bizarre choice. Second I don’t trust them, they’re blasting all the old uninhabited sites where people do not even live in Palestine and around the world in “wars” for a reason, to make it impossible to look into anything. The truth is being wiped away as fast as they can wipe, and the real question is, why? What truths are they desperate to hide?
It is NOT Jesus. Jist bear it in mind. For a long time it was under custody of visconti sforza satanist noble italian family, the same which had the first tarot of the latest centuries compiled and customized with the faces of the members of te family. This shroud is a lie being built for a long time. Jesus was NPT long haired. The Bible is clear about long hair being a shame for a man and God would never allow His son to figure naked printed somewhere. If jesus wanted to be depicted he would have been clear about it
This is just like any babylonian scum (babylon means confusion), sometimes they say it’s true, sometime false and people put heir hope on a piece of cloth. Instead of travelling miles paying a huge price to see shroud of turin, oviedo or manopello’s veil, in case you have money spend on yourself, your family and people in need.
I meant babylonian SCAM
People in need: I was hungy and you fed me, was cold and you clothed me, was in jail and you visisted me. Etc…. it is his own words.
Why the sudden obsession with this? It’s everywhere all of a sudden, which means it needs to be ignored.
It is an MK trigger. Another one for people to believe in the fake Messiah in the future through brainwash and mind control but people won’t believe this. Time and again this surfaces in the media. It is just sinister and grim like the manopello veil. There is nothing holy or beautiful in it. Jesus ressurrected inglorious body leaving NO marks on any sheet.
“In glorious”
This study they’re pushing uses a methodology of X-Ray scattering on samples of the cellulose structure to determine the supposed age of the shroud. They makes a huge, and likely erroneous assumption: That the shroud was stored at a stable temperature of ~72.5 degrees and 55% humidity prior to its sudden appearance in France in the 1350s, more than 1000 years after the Roman empire fell. If the temperatures and/or humidities were even slightly different, say 73 degrees and 56% humidity, or the storage was not in very stable conditions (typically so unless it stayed underground in a cave for the entire period), then the dating of the fabric is subject to being wildly different, as much as a range of 1200 years.
Even accepting their oddly exaact assumptions of 72.5 degrees and 55% humidity, which wreaks of fine tuning the assumptive data to achieve a desired result for the age, and that their analysis of X-Ray scattering for cellulose is fully correct (which both climatological, and alternate data suggests it isn’t, as their isn’t sufficient reference data on this methodology), the study would only offer some evidence that the yarn used to make the cloth itself originates from plants harvested sometime within several decades after the period in Yeshua died. It does not show that the imprint was made at that date, and the test does nothing to date the the staining of the fabric itself.
Carbon-14 dating avoids these issues, and multiple blind tests have determined the cloth to originate sometime around 1300 CE, exactly when it appeared in the historical record as a way to make money from the pilgrimage economy of Catholic Europe. It still to this day, is used to harvest huge quantities of donations to the Cattle Church…
I honestly do not believe this cloth covered Jesus. I do know that before they put Jesus on the cross the Jewish elite took his bloody clothing and sold it off in lots. So they can resurrect Jesus only it won’t be Jesus but the Antichrist (think crisper machine).
I also know a propaganda overlooked from a movie “The day the Earth Stood Still” is an outright mocking of the day of Jesus death and no one ever has mentioned this. In the Bible there was a total solar eclipse that lasted hours and a lunar one as well on that day.. the only way this could have happened is if the earth stood still.