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Netflix suggests Christianity, Judaism, and Islam acknowledge multiple gods

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Caramella Beth
Caramella Beth
17 days ago

As a previous Muslim, they believe it one god and not multiple.

marie
marie
17 days ago
Reply to  Caramella Beth

But does the text mention more than one? Christians believe in one “god” but the text mentions more.

Last edited 17 days ago by marie
Rosey
Rosey
16 days ago
Reply to  marie

False gods yes.

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  Rosey

Gen ch1 26 Greek septuagint

And God said, Let US make man according to our image and likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the flying creatures of heaven, and over the cattle and all the earth, and over all the reptiles that creep on the earth.

… Us means more than one.

imtrash3
imtrash3
14 days ago
Reply to  marie

Since Jesus was there (Colossians 1:15-20) the ‘us’ is easily resolved

marie
marie
17 days ago

I’m not shocked. I know many won’t believe this but the word Elohim was not just one person. The Bible was based on heavily edited books too.

somebody
somebody
16 days ago
Reply to  marie

Yesterday, a Christian business associate made a point that in the very first verse of Genesis God is referred to as “Elohim” which is plural. She also said that it is a plural form of three (something I have never heard before). That, she concludes, is proof of the Trinity! Why is God’s name plural in this verse?
The answer: A reply by Rabbi Tovia Singer
The claim advanced by your business associate is one of the more well-known arguments used by missionaries to defend the doctrine of the Trinity, the most guarded and untenable creed of the Church. It would be difficult to imagine a doctrine more hostile to the uncompromising monotheism preached in the Jewish Scriptures than the Christian claim that there is a plurality within the divine nature of God. Yet, armed with little knowledge of the Hebrew language, many Trinitarians brazenly argue that the name of God, as it appears in the first verse in the Bible, “proves” there are three distinct Persons in the godhead. 
More specifically, missionaries point to the plural form of the Hebrew name of God אֶלהִים, (Elohim), which appears frequently in the Torah, to bolster their claim that there is a complex unity in the godhead. They argue that the use of the Hebrew letters “ ים” (yud and mem, pronounced “im”), which is a plural suffix at the end of the word Elohim, provides ample evidence from Tanach that there is a plurality within the nature of God. Your business associate went out on an even more bizarre limb when she declared that this Hebrew syntax is somehow indicative of the “plural form of three.”
You can rest assured that the Hebrew tongue is a foreign language to your business associate, and that both of her contentions are erroneous. While her first assertion can be easily explained away by her lack of familiarity with the biblical language, her second point cannot. Her latter comment that the plural suffix in Elohim is indicative of “a plural form of three” is particularly preposterous, and illustrates the desperation and frustration some Trinitarians display in their rash effort to defend this alien Church creed.
While I too have never heard any missionary make the astounding claim that plurals somehow mean “a plural form of three,” the incentive for spawning this irresponsible contrivance is clear. If you examine the few verses evangelicals use from the Jewish Scriptures as they seek to buttress the doctrine of the Trinity, you will notice that none of them, even in Christian terms, speaks of three persons. In essence, her flawed declaration was born out of a desperate desire to weave the Trinity out of whole Jewish cloth. This is an impossible task.
Bear in mind, there is no mystery as to the origins of the Trinity, nor is there any secret for how this aberrant doctrine emerged. The doctrine of the Trinity was forged out of the crucible of the Catholic Church long after the Christian century (1st century). It is, therefore, no wonder that this pagan doctrine was unknown to authors of the New Testament (click here to see list). Church history reveals that it was not until three hundred years after the birth of Christianity that the doctrine of the Bianity (325 C.E.) and Trinity (381 C.E.) received formal approval in the Christian community. These well documented events occurred under circumstances rife with contention, political agitation, and radical dissension in the early Church.
In essence, the Jewish people never believed in a Trinity, and the Church adopted it under enormous political pressure from the most pagan segments of the young Catholic Church. Understandably, missionaries undertake a formidable task when they seek to prove this fourth century doctrine from a radically monotheistic Torah which is timeless. Let’s examine your business associate’s claim.
There is an enormous difficulty with the interpretation that the name Elohim signifies a sort of plurality in the godhead; for if Elohim implies a plurality of persons, how can missionaries explain that the identical word Elohim in Tanach refers to Moses as well? Regarding Moses, the Torah says, The Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made thee a god אֶלהִים, (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.”
Are missionaries suggesting that there was a plurality of persons in Moses? Is your associate going to insist that Moses was part of a Trinity? The notion that Moses, who is called Elohim in the Torah, possessed more than one person is preposterous. Moreover, if the name of God is to signify a plurality in the godhead, why wasn’t the name YHWH, which is by far the most frequently used name for God in the Jewish Scriptures, also written in the plural? Clearly, this sort of Trinitarian argument is baseless.
The word Elohim possesses a plural intensive syntax and is singular in meaning. In Hebrew, the suffix ים (im), mainly indicates a masculine plural. However with Elohim the construction is grammatically singular, (i.e. it governs a singular verb or adjective) when referring to the God of Israel, but grammatically plural elohim (i.e. taking a plural verb or adjective) when used of pagan divinities (Psalms 96:5; 97:7).
This is self-evident from the fact that the verb “created” בָּרָה (bara) in Genesis 1:1 is in the singular. This linguistic pattern is well known and widely used throughout the Jewish Scriptures. For example, I am certain that many readers are familiar with the Hebrew word חַיִים (chayim), meaning “life.” Notice that this word contains the identical plural suffix “im,” as in Elohim, yet it repeatedly means “life”, in the singular, throughout the Bible….

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  somebody

I never said anything about a trinity or Elohim but I can tell you from a Hebrew speaker el is one and Elohim is multiple. You can do with whatever you want with that. His argument that it doesn’t mean 3 is correct, it didn’t mean it isn’t three either. Multiple is multiple so tricky they are..
Look at gen 1, 26, it clearly says we and our.

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  somebody

Nevermind mixed it, I did say Elohim just not Trinity. I didn’t see anywhere mentioning three Elohim, but it is, in Hebrew the plural, for the word el, that is all I’m saying. Then you have it coupled with ” us ” and “our” so that seems to point it was not a single being creating man, the creator created earth alone then mentioned help

Last edited 16 days ago by marie
imtrash3
imtrash3
14 days ago
Reply to  marie

Colossians 1:15-20

marie
marie
14 days ago
Reply to  imtrash3

Will check it thanks

Last edited 14 days ago by marie
lgageharleya
lgageharleya
16 days ago
Reply to  marie

Elohim means the singular total of all natural forces; the observable effect of Logos. The fruits on the branches.

I’m not certain about this:
https://chicagobible.org/can-you-explain-john-1034-what-does-it-mean-ye-are-gods/

But it strikes me that Yeshua was prodding them, (i.e. You say it is heretical I called myself and others Elohim, but haven’t your own scriptures given yourselves this very designator [in a far more worldy “magnificent” but spiritually more detrimental aspect – they thought this made them lords to lord it over other -“lessers”).

In other words, this term is more hoarded treasure that belongs to us all.

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Gen ch1 26 Greek septuagint

And God said, Let US make man according to OUR image and likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the flying creatures of heaven, and over the cattle and all the earth, and over all the reptiles that creep on the earth.

… Us means more than one.

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

This has nothing to do with this scripture but… In Israel..They are down to 4 red heifers, they want to kill one to clean themselves of murdering so many people by tricking the creator that the cow did their sins. Then they can destroy the temple, have their antichrist and WW3. Do you think they will find some hairs that won’t go with their perfect plan? Let’s find out.

marie
marie
15 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Where did logos = Elohim? I’m lost. I was really concerned about v 26. I spoke to a native Hebrew speaker and went on several hunts watching video after video about Elohim meaning plural from biblical scholars and so forth. Why is it so bad if he had help creating man? I mean who are we to judge he could have had spiritual sex with his heavenly wife for all we know, he’s still the one we answer to. I’m not trying to argue but having an echo chamber isn’t my thing either. For the record Netflix can kiss my a*s, I will never use it or any of those programs and I’m not agreeing with whatever they promote. I’m just saying there’s a few things pointing to plural. If that means the forces of nature, which is He then that’s fine but really need to see where that connects why didn’t he use plural with everything else he created? Hmm

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
14 days ago
Reply to  marie

I am not saying Elohim is not plural, it certainly is, but it is the collective manifestation of healthy fruits. (Similar as to how we say “the crowd” – singular, but made up of many individuals..) Try this angle abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Elohim.html
The writers who provide commentary on this site are Hebrew.

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marie
marie
14 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Okay thank you

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
16 days ago
Reply to  marie

Elohim means the singular total of all natural forces; the observable effect of Logos. The fruits on the branches.

I’m not certain about this:
chicagobible.org/can-you-explain-john-1034-what-does-it-mean-ye-are-gods/

But it strikes me that Yeshua was prodding them, (i.e. You say it is heretical I called myself and others Elohim, but haven’t your own scriptures given yourselves this very designator [in a far more worldy “magnificent” but spiritually more detrimental aspect – they thought this made them lords to lord it over other -“lessers”).

In other words, this term is more hoarded treasure that belongs to us all.

Sorry, posted again to remove the link disqualifiers, to post faster. This comment will likely duplicate.

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Okay. Well I’m just using the literal translation from Hebrew.
As you can see above in gen 1 it said us and our. I never mentioned Elohim or anything about a trinity but Hebrew Elohim is more than one. El is one.

Last edited 16 days ago by marie
marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Please show me where you get the idea
Elohim means the singular total of all natural forces; the observable effect of Logos. The fruits on the branches.
I’ve never read that before.

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
15 days ago
Reply to  marie

abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Logos.html

marie
marie
15 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Okay thank you I’ll check it out

marie
marie
15 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Not sure if my thank you went through. Interesting site you found.

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
14 days ago
Reply to  marie

It’s been extremely helpful to my understanding.

marie
marie
14 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

My comments didn’t look like they posted then they did. Sorry for repetitive posts.

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
13 days ago
Reply to  marie

I’ve been having inconsistent service too. Did the 2nd article help?

marie
marie
11 days ago
Reply to  lgageharleya

Yeah I actually started reading more since it was an interesting site but it makes sense, I figured there were rules since controllers have to follow them to some degree to make things work. I guess it’s like a tool or instrument, you can play evil songs or songs that heal etc.
Btw I really think they used sound to heal people in those temples, I didn’t think they worshipped anything. Then there’s was some big crisis..

lgageharleya
lgageharleya
10 days ago
Reply to  marie

I know sound can heal, just as it can hurt. I’ve been using various frequencies as background soaking noises and I can definitely tell the difference. I wonder where intent comes into just the frequency sounds (in the same manner as a person can say “Sure, you will!” and could be sarcastic or enthusiastic using the same words). Do the frequency notes themselves carry intent (highly doubtful) or does the intent of the person producing/replicating those sounds impact the hearer, or is it only the hearer’s intent in receiving that matters? I guess I wonder whether some frequencies are meant to heal and some to break down or cause decay. Have you looked into 439Hz?

Objectively True
Objectively True
17 days ago

Christianity does acknowledge the existence of lesser gods…I mean as long as Christianity is still using the Bible as a basis of belief.

This clip you posted doesn’t have twisted truths in it When it comes to what the Bible teaches.

That is not to say there aren’t other moments in this series that are lies…I assume there is if it’s a Netflix thing.

Ted
Ted
16 days ago

I’m a Christian, what lesser gods do we accept because that is news to me.

oddjob
oddjob
16 days ago
Reply to  Ted

We don’t, but the scripture tells us there are lesser “gods”. 1st commandment “Thou shalt have no other gods but me.” this statement alone indicates there are others, lessor and not the true God (Yahuah).

Genesis 6 discusses the fallen angels and their taking of women. Where do you think the stories of Nimrod, Og of Bashon, Goliath come from. These are the products of Nephilim off spring and descendants. IMO

Ted
Ted
16 days ago
Reply to  oddjob

Are they “lesser gods” or were they competing gods with The Jewish God? Regardless, Christian’s never worshipped other God’s, they believe in the God of the Bible. Islam believes in a version of that same God called Allah. Jews believe in the same God as the Bible. All three are monotheistic.

fuzz
fuzz
17 days ago

I think this verse explains the reference to “other gods”

Deuteronomy 32:17 KJV
They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

Other gods are just demons and figures based on myths. The point is it’s something that comes before God the father that is the problem.

Pious
Pious
17 days ago
Reply to  fuzz

Such fallacies are nothing but misconstrued, distorted, disinformation teachings of DEMONS; based upon adulterated, mutilated versions of Biblical scriptures to mislead the simple* (also known as fools).

1 Timothy 4:1 KJV
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Romans 16:18 KJV
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple*.

Jeremiah 4:22 KJV
For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Such wicked teachers also known as DOGS (Isaiah 28, 56; Philippians 3:2) are nothing but God’s judgement on a rebellious people!

Proverbs 17:11 KJV
An evil man seeketh only rebellion: therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 KJV
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

By rejecting the simplicity of the gospel we profess; Salvation (meaning to save from sins and consequences of sins, Rom. 6:23), God gave them up to the Spirit of delusion to be deceived. As a result, most leftists / goats are hyptonized by being serenaded down the path to hell…

🎵🎼🎶🎼 on a highway to hell 🎶🎼🎼🎵 highway to hell…

quantguacamole
quantguacamole
17 days ago
Reply to  Pious

@fuzz is right, there are no lesser gods, those are demons. Read some books about deliverance ministry and how some people got demon possessed for worshiping false idols that portray themselves as God. Deliverance minister can easily cast them out in Jesus name.

Last edited 17 days ago by quantguacamole
Pious
Pious
17 days ago
Reply to  fuzz

Idols / statues / man-made images are nothing but dwelling of demons. They are sometimes referred to as ‘house hold gods’ but Biblically are called teraphim.

1 Corinthians 10:20 KJV
But I say , that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

Pious
Pious
17 days ago

Prophet Isaiah is known as Evangelical Prophet delving more into the coming message of Grace and Truth (John 1:17) under the New Covenant. He exponded more through his prophetic discourse on Ontology… The following are some quotes from the Book of Isaiah and other references.

Please Note: you teach scripture using scriptures! He is a double witness unto Himself.

Revelation 1:8 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Isaiah 45:5-6,18,22 KJV
I am the Lord , and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: [6] That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord , and there is none else. [18] For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord ; and there is none else. [22] Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Isaiah 40:18,21-22,25 KJV
To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him? [21] Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth? [22] It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: [25] To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.

Isaiah 41:4 KJV
Who hath wrought and done it , calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord , the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 42:8 KJV
I am the Lord : that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Isaiah 43:10-13,15 KJV
Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord , and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [11] I, even I, am the Lord ; and beside me there is no saviour. [12] I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord , that I am God. [13] Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? [15] I am the Lord , your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.

Isaiah 44:6-8,18 KJV
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any . [18] They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

Exodus 3:14 KJV
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Deuteronomy 6:4-6 KJV
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord :
[5] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. [6] And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Psalm 62:11 KJV
God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

1 John 5:7 KJV
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word*, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

… “the Word*” also known as The Begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, The Saviour (Messiah), The Bread from heaven, The First and the Last, Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and the End, The Door to the Sheep, The Lamp, The Light of the World, The Good Shepherd, The way, The Truth and The Life… etc.,

Crazy Bear
Crazy Bear
17 days ago

That’s why I never consult Netflix about medical, legal, or spiritual facts. Every single major media source regardless of content or demographic audience, is nothing more than propaganda supporting the social engineering focus of the time. Radio, television, music, movies, news publications, were never once meant for entertainment for the sake of entertainment or information for the sake of unbiased truth. It has always been a tool to steer the herd in the direction they’re being driven.

Objectively True
Objectively True
17 days ago
Reply to  Crazy Bear

I completely agree!

Ted
Ted
16 days ago
Reply to  Crazy Bear

Agree!

Wowjustwow
Wowjustwow
16 days ago

Why do we even consider the evils of Netflix after they proved everything with Cuties?

Anywho, the biggest trick of the Dev!l was to split the church into ten thousand pieces. And the Freemasons did a great job of editing the good book to keep us fussing among ourselves forever. Now, instead of feeding people and loving our neighbors, we argue about the products of the matrix.

I’m gonna take a long break from even checking this page. F*ck the dev!l straight back to hel1. I’m done arguing with other people who are technically on my side.

Love y’all. 🙏🏾❤️😚✌️

marie
marie
16 days ago
Reply to  Wowjustwow

The church itself started from people who believed in many different books and didn’t agree with each other. A group decided to outlaw most of the books they didn’t agree with and took the ones they wanted then edited those and lost originals which I’m guessing were never really lost just hidden. Then they killed a bunch of people who wouldn’t let go of old books or wouldn’t go along with it I’m not arguing to argue just trying to tell you what you might not be aware of. There’s no reason to be offended

Last edited 16 days ago by marie
Dulce
Dulce
16 days ago

Religion in general is just an interpretation of astrology.
The difference between Islam and Christianity:
Islam is a religion that worships the moon and saturn.
Christianity is about sun worshipping.
The cross symbol is for sun positions, Jesus is just a myth!
Wake up!!!

marie
marie
15 days ago
Reply to  Dulce

Or you can wake yourself, that that’s just another interpretation. No offense intended. I can’t really trust history as it’s written at the moment, the victors aren’t exactly the most trustworthy types, you could switch it around and go in circles about which is correct. I prefer to think this is a set up land created by something more intelligent more complex and with some sort of purpose. Maybe that’s a dream but what isn’t? I put energy in it, it now exists at least in some form. What is reality, really? You can’t know everything only what they tell you to know, just like everyone we are swimming in a sea of interpretation misinformation and brushing muck off tiny nuggets of truth. I hope some of us stumble on the factor that will bring all truth forward and s**t on those that have sucked it up. Wake up to the dream of Life, to the tiny glistening fluttering particles making up everything and the music they make that you’re so used to hearing that you don’t notice it anymore. Wake up, you know deep down someone or ones created this and we aren’t supposed to be aware because the controllers don’t want us to. To keep slaves you must dethrone them of their freedom, of their mindset. We are purposely dumbed down by government chemicals they spray that shrink our brains, Fluoride and mind manipulation.. we are all spirits connected put into bodies for temporary training to find and purge what the big one doesn’t want, which we don’t want in us but we are trained to like until we repeat life over and over. Everything tarnished over time we need to polish, this is a system. Sorry it’s late so that might not make sense.

Godisgood
Godisgood
16 days ago

These people should not be interviewed based on their perception. It’s obvious that they have not understand the Bible.

marie
marie
15 days ago
Reply to  Godisgood

They should not even be in business. They are perverts in every sense.