Zelensky gave the Pope a painting in which Jesus is completely BLACKED OUT

Queen of heaven is a certified pagan term for a goddess. And Mary is called the queen of heaven. I grew up Catholic and know all about the worship mass for Mary which also has pagan origins. Mary doesn’t want to be worshipped and I do believe they are tricked into worshipping Asherah the mother of all demons and Queen of the marine realm. Her husband is Moloch the child eater. While Moloch/Baals father is Dagon who is the king of the marine realm and is exclusively worshipped by the Vatican.

@americaillusion

The Catulus Church is a fully Luciferian organization, and has been since it’s very foundations. It is the church of the antiXristos, as mentioned in Hebrews, 1 John and Revelations.

The Papa (father…) and his mignions are the priests of the transgender form of Lucifer, The Great Mother, the same who for millennia have spread Luciferian indoctrination throughout the world in the various Re-Legions (Re = Lord of Light Legions = Pawn soldiers.) of pagan Astro theology, and then culminated them into a “universalist” churches such that the emperor of Rome (the same as Rama the Solar warrior and Rammanu the Babylonian version of Zeus, the Illuminator.) could have control over the minds and souls of his subjects.

The name Vat-I-Kain comes directly from the “Great Mother” Vatika, who was the reaper of souls of the underworld that is half COW (Cattle Church), and the same as the Mother of Re, Vat/Bat in Egypt, the Bovine (COW) mother of the sun. And of course a wink to their progenitor, Kain. This is but another Re formulation in the long line of the cult of the “Queen of Heaven,” Isis/Ishtar/Astarte/Asherah. This title appears nowhere in scripture, except in Jeremiah 44: where the prophet tells us that all those who blow incense to the statue of the Queen of Heaven will be punished by YHWH. This is what the Papa, calling himself father and spitting on Yeshua’s words, does every SUNday for the MASSes indoctrination.

Have you ever kissrd a girl?!🤣🤣🤣 you sound like the nerd in Ghostbusyers”

Imma take a wild guess the gem prolly got so many honeys he bored. Ur watchin ghostbusyers, while he’s swashbuckling real info down ya throat and exposing the luminatis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven_(antiquity)

Plus in the article the goddesses mentioned are other names Asherah goes by like Ishtar/Inanna and Astarte.

“ For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. ”, right?

When you proposed an article whose author was the very author of “The Christ Conspiracy”.

“ Author Acharya makes the case that there was no actual person named Jesus, but that several characters were rolled into one mythic being inspired by the deities Mithras, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others of the Roman Empire. She demonstrates that the story of Jesus, as portrayed in the Gospels, is nearly identical in detail to those of the earlier savior-gods Krishna and Horus, and concludes that Jesus was certainly neither original nor unique, nor was he the divine revelation. Rather, he represents the very ancient body of knowledge derived from celestial observation and natural forces.”

You landed on a dangerous soil, A.E. Is this your bible? Did Christ need to be inspired by Hercules? Dionysus, “the party-boy”? Krishna?
One of the so-called “savior gods” of the ancient world is the Hindu deity Krishna. Mythicists (those who believe Jesus is nothing more than a mythical figure like Zeus, Thor, Ba’al, etc.) claim the existence of unmistakable parallels between Krishna and Jesus in the original sources. These parallels are so strong, they argue, that the only rational conclusion is that the Gospel writers recorded a tradition about Jesus that was deeply influenced by, or even plagiarized, Hindu beliefs.
Let’s see a few “simmilarities”:
-“Christ is a form of the name Krishna.” No etymological connection between “Krishna” and “Christ” actually exists. Christ (christos) is the Greek equivalent of messiah (Hebrew mashiach). Both mean, “anointed one.” Krishna is an unrelated personal name, which derives from a Sanskrit term meaning “black, dark, dark-blue.”

-“Krishna was born of a virgin.” This is a popular claim, sometimes made by atheists, but also by those who profess to be Christian. Hindu texts make it clear that his mother Devaki had already conceived seven other sons, the first six of whom were executed by the evil prince Kamsa after their births. Matthew states that the chaste Mary fulfills an ancient prediction of the prophet Isaiah (Matthew 1:23; cf. Isaiah 7:14).

-“Krishna died at age thirty.” Although Jesus died in his early thirties, Krishna lived a much longer life. Common estimates place Krishna’s age at death somewhere around 100 years. A 2004 article in the Times of India reported Hindu scholars calculated that Krishna died at the age of 125.

-“Krishna died by crucifixion.” Crucifixion appears nowhere in the Hindu texts. Krishna died after a hunter named Jara shot him in the sole of his foot with a poisoned arrow after mistaking him for a deer. Kersey Graves infamously claimed Krishna was crucified between two thieves, that darkness attended the event, and that he gives up the ghost and descends into hell, details he—or a source he used—invented out of whole cloth.

-“Krishna resurrected after three days.” After his death, Krishna’s spirit appears almost immediately. Being liberated from his physical body—or abandoning it—his spirit returns to the realm of the divine. Hindu pilgrims today still visit Dehotsarga (literally, where Krishna “gave up his body”), where they believe Krishna died. Jesus was buried in a newly cut rock tomb and later experienced a bodily resurrection that serves as a prototype for believers (1 Corinthians 15:20, 42-44). The Hindu view of Krishna’s death is much closer to Neo-Platonic philosophy than it is to Christianity. There are absolutely no Indian gods portrayed as crucified.

Dorothy M. Murdock (also known by her pseudonym “Acharya S”) made similar claims to those above. Another book book “Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled “ includes a litany of supposed parallels between Christian and Hindu beliefs. Although her work is hailed by her uncritical supporters and other non-specialists as a work of unparalleled scholarship, scholars dismiss her work as the stuff of crass invention.

A common problem found in the work of militant critics is the failure to adequately understand the beliefs of the religions they oppose. Critics can be inexcusably careless in their descriptions, making ancient religions appear more similar than they really are. This is often done by describing non-Christian elements of other religions using Christian vocabulary, and then marveling at the similarities between the two. In some cases (especially authors from the 19th and early 20th centuries), these parallels were made using vague interpretations, supported by evidence which was poorly understood and likely fabricated.
Despite claims to the contrary, the story of Christ in no way plagiarizes the story of Krishna. To argue otherwise is to twist and distort the teachings of both Christianity and Hinduism..

A.E… Here is Mithras:

The story of Mithras is that he was born out of solid rock. So, maybe the rock could technically be a virgin, but that’s a bit ridiculous.

Another claim is that the birth of Mithras was attended by shepherds, but that notation only appears a hundred years after the Gospels were composed, so if anyone stole or copied something it was those who followed Mithras, not the followers of Jesus.

They say Mithras was a great teacher who travelled around preaching is message. But if you look at the mythology of Mithras it never claims he was a teacher of any kind so that doesn’t fit.

Did Mithras have twelve disciples? Again, there is nothing in the actual Mithras legends that name or number his disciples as being a group of twelve. Some attribute this idea to a single mural that was painted showing Mithras surrounded by twelve signs which look closer to the zodiac than anything else – one is the moon, the other is the sun, etc. – and those are not connected to disciples of Mithras at all. That painting also came long after the Gospels were written and so if there was any connection between Jesus and Mithras it was coming from the Mithras side and not the Jesus side.

Did Mithras promise his followers eternal life? No, not exactly. We can’t find any specific sayings or verses from Mithraic texts that suggest anything like this. But if he did that wouldn’t be unusual in comparison to all the other gods in the ancient world who often promised some type of blessing or benefit in the afterlife.

Does Mithras perform miracles? Yes, he does, but, as with the point above, so did every other religious figure in the ancient world. So, there’s no conspiracy or specific detail about a certain type of miracle that overlaps between Jesus and Mithras.

Did Mithras sacrifice himself in order to save the world or bring peace to everyone? The Mithraic narrative is that he killed a bull as an heroic deed. The bull died but Mithras didn’t. There’s no connection to the death of the bull and the salvation of humanity. It’s not there.

Was Mithras buried in a tomb only to rise again three days later? No because there’s no death story connected to Mithras. Since he doesn’t die there’s no burial and that means there’s no resurrection either. Tertullian does refer to the Mithraic cult of his day having some sort of resurrection celebration, but we have to keep in mind that this was over a hundred years after the time of Jesus and there are no other actual Mithraic references to such a thing. So, until we find more credible evidence the answer is, no, the followers of Mithra didn’t believe he died or was buried or that he rose from the dead.

Was Mithras called a shepherd, or was he ever compared to a lion or lamb? No, he wasn’t. There are no Mithraic texts that ever refer to Mithras in this way. Mithras is more like a sun god and so that’s why he has some association with the zodiac symbol Leo, but that’s not the same as calling him the Lion of God.

Was Mithras ever called the Logos, or the Word of God, or the Savior or the Messiah? Say it with me everyone: No. He wasn’t. Based on the Mithraic story none of those terms were ever applied to Mithras.

So, again, the pattern we find here is that claims made about the similarities between Mithras and Jesus come long after the Gospels were written. When we do see direct comparisons between them it’s the followers of Mithras who are borrowing from the Christ story, not the other way around.

Want to give you sources? There are tons! When I attended Art High School, many, many years back, there was this course named “History of Ancient Art”. I learned quite a lot about these figures from those classes. Old school is the best. This is one of the reasons why this kind of parallelomania does not affect me. Elementary info about the ancient deities are to be found in almost every library.
Pay more attention to the sellout authors that propagate zeitgeistic lies.

“This is often done by describing non-Christian elements of other religions using Christian vocabulary, and then marveling at the similarities between the two.”
Regardless of which descriptors are used to describe the same thing, they still describe the same thing.
As to the dispute regarding this particular source, I am not a devotee, so have no dog in this fight. I simply draw attention to the across-all-religions similarities, which are too consistent to be ignored when repeated in the Christ story as given modernly.

@JBL

When a Re-legion takes a veritable multitude of its symbolisms, ritual practices, professed beliefs, names, iconography, and even saints directly from pagan use for thousands of years beforehand over a large swath of geography and cultures, especially when all of those symbols, rituals, names, etc directly and overtly contradict scriptural commands, then it is paganism, no matter the branding they’ve slapped on it.

Surely you are correct that just because pagans use something general once, does not automatically make it pagan. Yet this is so far from the case: this church of abomination admits it absorbs pagan practice! The very title “Queen of Heaven,” has no scriptural basis whatsoever, except to be called an abomination in Jeremiah, and to be called an abomination regarding Astarte in Solomon. How then did it stop being a pagan abomination? Is that because the Papa, calling himself father directly contradicting Yeshua’s words said so?

The title, iconography, and ritual practice surrounding the Cattle Lick Queen of Heaven has been taken directly from pagan practice in Egypt, Babylon, Phoenicia, Ireland, Gaul, Anatolia, Akkadian’s, and China with precedent of 1000s of years prior. This isn’t an ancillary reality, but the foundational core of the Cattle Licks doctrine, and it is (and has been for thousands of years before there ever was a Papa in Rome) a PAGAN
TITLE FOR LUCIFER WHICH SCRIPTURE CALLS AN ABOMINATION, WHEN THOSE IN EGYPT BLOW INCENSE TO THE STATUE OF A FHE QUEEN OF HEAVEN.

@igageharleya

What irony there is in an adherent of a “universalist,” church of pagan practice, created by solar worshippers, claiming that they are the one thing stopping a world universal religion. The Cattle Licks are the original universalist one world religion; of paganism! You have laid forth very clearly the Truth here.

The Luciferians running the farm are aware, that just as an electromagnetic DI-POLE, or an alternating current Tri-phasic system, they must create an Us Vs. Them scenario in the minds of the masses in order for the system of human mass control to remain stable. A person can hardly walk with one leg, a bird cannot fly with one wing.

Likewise this strategy of Bi and Tri-polarity is frequently used to flip and spin people around on the ideologies they conciously claim to follow, and thus very weak, and ultimately lost in their allegiances to corrupt cult organizations that are their own demise. An easy example: In US, the republican cultists (it is a cult…) hating on the phrase “my body my choice,” for decades regarding abortion, while the Demokratic kultists touted it with great fervor. Yet, once it was time for nano-technology shots for COVert IDentification, the used their levers to flip and spin the ideology in a chiral inversion, and suddenly Repulikains were using the phrase, while the DemosKratos were trying to force the others against their will… The effect being that the cattle yell over the fence at one another, and nobody really pays attention to the corporate farmer preparing for their slaughter.

Take this (the blindness of someone so intelligent, yet so deaf) as a lesson in the power that this strategy wields over the cattle who have swallowed the poison pill; while you speak clear, and evident Truth to them, they are as zombies, and by trying to hold onto their life, they have lost it forever.

I believe this is accurate.

@trevor

The second commandment is clear “Graven Images you SHALL NOT!”

How many crucifixes, icons, statues, and other graven images of G Zeus, bloody and gruesome, and the Great Mother do these imposters make, and spit on the commandments of YHWH? Dare I say billions…

Indeed such an abomination is the imposter, the G Zeus of the Roman (Rama = Solar Warriors) Tannaim (imposters.) For all those that read the Torah and the Bible, these things are clear.

This is not worshipping a pagan statue… Who cares about those pesky commandments about murder and worshipping idols?

Let’s burn the witches, rape the kids, and definitely worship statues.

>”Let’s pretend for a moment that YHWH is our Father (which He is). How might you approach a beloved father in your life now, if you wished to entreat him? […] Or would you go, sit at His feet and cultivate a relationship between YOU and HIM?”

There’s nothng opposed to this view in Catholic or Orthodox theology. They might add that you should approach the Father as well as the Son, or that you’d be foolish to ignore his mother if you were to visit him, but I’m not aware that they have a prohibition against doing just what you describe.

>”Would you go and repeat words and mantras, rubbing beads?”

To reiterate, both Orthodox and Catholic would warn against this approach.

>”Would you bring along a couple of friends you’re sure he likes better than you to finagle on your behalf?”

What I would do is irrelevant.

In concept, if I knew someone didn’t like me but his mother and his friends did like me, and I needed his help badly, I would of course ask his mother and friends to try and get him to help me. That would be the smart thing to do.

If I knew someone didn’t like me but I needed his help and had to make a good impression, I would be very polite to his mother and his friends while visiting him. That would be the smart thing to do.

>”Okay, but if you are “keeping track of the prayers said” by counting beads, how is this not mindless, rote repetition? Is our Father an automaton we feed the set number of coins into to extract what we are seeking?”

“Mindless” and “rote” are modifying the word “repetition.” The prohibition is not against repetition, it’s against “mindless, rote repetition.”

>”I pray solely from the feelings pouring forth from my heart, directly to the Father, and know that Messiah intercedes for me in my imperfection.In fact, I may err in the other direction, by not praying so often as I should if I don’t feel it within me. I get disheartened and I clam up. This is also error.”

The Catholic and the Orthodox would have no problem with this statement.

>”We, each individual, can be close to the Father, without need of someone we esteem higher than ourselves.

Catholics and Orthodox would point you to John 14:6 on this one. How you understand that verse and what you accept may be different, that would just be their view.

>”This is still a search for an intercessor. Yeshua IS our intercessor.”

Catholics and Orthodox would agree that without the Messiah there is no redemption, making him *the* intercessor in a very real sense.

>”We need no other. Comfort and agreement amongst the brethren is good and bolsters us, but this is, quite simply, chain of command.”

Catholics and Orthodox are unlikely to disagree substantively. In fact, the Orthodox have a very strong tradition of this. You are likely to find elders among both who would add to your statement that although we need no other intercessor, we may receive benefits from other intercessors, simply because they consider it an act of humility not to count yourself worthy of approaching the King on your own.

@crisspf

Would you like me to show you all of the Luciferian solar worship symbols your patriarch wears and carries, symbols used to worship the Sun continually for 1000s of years before there ever was a Rome? To discuss the mass genocides in the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine empire? Shall we discuss the commandments of Moshe violated constantly? The commandments of Yeremiah? The commandments of Ezekiel? Or the words of Yeshua trampled as if they were nothing?

Should we discuss the open admission Catulisism absorbed and continued pagan practice and local deities as “saints”? Shall we discuss the dress and name of your priests taken directly from Babylon? Shall we discuss the celebrating of holidays in accordance with Mithraism and other pagan practices?

I am well versed in cattle lick and their offsprings (Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, etc.) theology, history, lexical choices, and ritual practices; there is a long and deep rooted history of child raping, genocide, lies, corruption and deceit, all veiled under mountains of false righteousness from the gentiles that trample the outer court. I do not speak from ignorance, but from a deep experience and lots of primary sourcing.

The vast majority of my studies and dedication is not to the occult, but to the scriptures in the original languages. You may not realise, but I hail from the same line of David, the same root of Ishi, the Aryeh Yehudah; the Occult is referenced throughout scriptures, as it is a corruption and twisting, much like the cattle lick doctrine, of the original teachings of my people; instead used for the use for personal gain (the papacy is the wealthiest organisation of the planet.) that have co-opted and destroyed what was once called The Way.

🙏

>”As an orthodox, I pretty much agree with the analysis you’ve made. Mature and objective observations and I thank you for that.”

Thank you very much! I’m glad I could represent Orthodox theology fairly and in way that seemed accurate enough to you. I think Orthodoxy is one of the most compelling “proofs” (poor word choice there on my part, I know) that having knowledge is not the same as seeing. Your faith still produces saints among both scholars and those who never finish grade school, and all of them have the characteristic combination of simplicity and subtlety in their speech and writings that the Orthodox are known for.

>”There are, I’m affraid, some here that spent too much of their time studying the occult and it is very hard or almost impossible for them to distinguish things anymore. When one looks at dirt all the time everything else suddently looks like trash.”

Your words here remind me strongly of St. Paisios’ observations on people falling into the categories of flies or bees.

>”They admire the “beauty and wisdom” in buddhism or other religions, but somehow real, unspoiled christianity must be satanic in their conception. Theology? Sacraments? Priesthood? Martyrs? Saints? Respect for the Mother of Jesus, the Logos? Jesus?( because they have a problem with the name, too). Prayer ropes? (I could go on forever). It is “paganism”, “satanism”, “cannibalism”.

Yes, it is curious. And interestingly, some of it flies in the face of the symbolism in the Bible itself. No one, for instance, will question how sacred and powerful the Ark of the Covenant is, but it’s unthinkable and offensive that Mary, who literally contained the Messiah within herself would have a special role? Yet this is a very common objection I hear out in the world when people discuss Apostolic Christianity. I am sure you yourself have heard it more times than you can count.

>”They understand nothing or simply cover their eyes and ears because the “precious hidden knowledge” they pretend they have lifts up their huge egos. They are too arrogant to let one explain so that they could reconsider things from an insider’s perspective. I’ve read lots of nonsense here in the comments.

Yes, that does seem to be a real danger for all of us who start down the rabbit hole. As you will know better than I: “Being a theologian means first and foremost that one is an expert in the wiles of the devil.”

Just as a technical observation, there is a lot of inductive reasoning happening on this site (which makes sense based on the nature of it), but it seems sometimes to come at the expense of deductive, and can therefore spin out of control.

>”At first I felt outraged because some are blaspheming a lot, but now I just feel sad. These people don’t want to know more. They “know”!”

Yes, I think it’s interesting that Apostolic Christianity is often discarded so sloppily not just here, but all over! The Orthodox have gone to great pains, literally, to maintain the original deposit of Christian faith unchanged for over 2000 years. The Catholics, meanwhile, have created possibly the most comprehensive explanation of any system (poor word choice again from me, since much of it is also not systemic) of thought spanning both theology and philosophy and the relationship between the two, yet neither Orthodoxy nor Catholicism are worthy of careful study from those who would see behind the veil?

Also, since you mentioned Constantine in so many other comments on previous topics… I will repost my comment here:
give me that one or two, or tens unspoiled source/s where it says that Constantine, the christian emperor strangled his wife for fun. …and was she strangled, or was she slain, or was she drowned? Was it for fun or was it something else? You said “all of his close family members”. For someone so calculated, so precise, you should probably know that his mother, Helena ( doesn’t that qualify her as a close relative?) was not killed by her strangler-for-fun-imperial-son and lived quite a long life dying of old age (82). All of his close family members becomes not all of his close family members. Could it also be that “strangled his wife for fun” is actually slain or dead by other method? and was it for fun or was there some other reason? (because some historians, a few centuries old historians disagree with you).
Also regarding Constantine… he was not born christian. He became! That means he lived quite a long time among pagans. Becoming christian and emperor might have made things a bit more problematic in terms of forcing christianity on his very people. They were pagans! Pagans did force idolatry on christians, tortured and killed them in horrible ways for not betraying their faith. Christian leaders, the real christian leaders have not. A christian Constantine could and would have not imposed the new faith on his people the same way his predecesors did with their gods. The new faith, the new way had to make it’s own way to people’s hearts. To be assimilated and followed willingly. People had to be convinced it was the best way. … In time! That is what assimilation is after all.
“Roman opinion expected of its emperors not innovation but the preservation of traditional ways; Roman propaganda and political communication were conditioned, by statement, allusion, and symbol, to express these expectations. It is significant, for instance, not that the pagan gods and their legends survived for a few years on Constantine’s coinage but that they disappeared so quickly: the last of them, the relatively inoffensive “Unconquered Sun,” was eliminated just over a decade after the defeat of Maxentius.”
Some of the ambiguities in Constantine’s public policies were therefore exacted by the respect due to established practice and by the difficulties of expressing, as well as of making, total changes suddenly. The suppression of paganism, by law and by the sporadic destruction of pagan shrines, is balanced by particular acts of deference.

Allow me to give you a different example of motive behind actions, of context and of consequences.
Was Vlad the Impaler a criminal of war? Maybe! And no, he is not considered a saint (in case you wondered). So, was he a criminal of war? It depends on how you want to see it and what suits your purposes best. Are you a muslim or a christian? You want to win by all costs or be fair, consider the context, see the purpose and the effects? So, was he christian? Yes! Did he kill? Yes! The Otoman Empire was a menace to his country and to all christian countries in East Europe. He was a defender, not an offender. Without him and a few other small rulers Europe would have been muslim now. It would have been Quran, not the Word of Christ.

“Any saint has a past, any sinner has a future”.
Was King David of the Old Testament a rapist? And a murderer? Yes! He did, though, repent and he has given us the beautiful, powerful, God-inspired Psalms. Past gives one’s future even more value when the sins are followed by repentance and by the change of one’s ways.
Was St Mary of Egypt a prostitute? Yes! Was St.Moses the Black a killer, a robber, a rapist? Yes! But the robber and the killer repented. The prostitute turned to Christ. The thief on the cross repented. He entered Heaven as Christ promissed. Saul of Tarsus repented. He became the Apostle and the martyr. St.Cyprianos was a sorcerer. He repented.
…Some of the greatest men and women of christianity had a “past”, sometimes a very dark past. Christ made His way to their hearts and provoked the big change because there was an honest search of something called Truth. And the Truth, the Way, the Life found them and changed them forever. Without us knowing their past and their 180 degree change we would perhaps not have enough courage to believe Christ can and will forgive, will receive, will unite with us when and where there is repentance and an authentic will to change.

@Seekingaloha

Your questions is so broad, and I know nothing of you, so it is essentially impossible to answer.

The path you are walking is the way. You must continue to ask, seek and knock.

My one point to make is that you should not love Yeshua “above,” yourself. You should have gratefulness and “love” (loaded English word…) equal to the infinity of the ineffable creator for yourself and all things no above, nor below, only humility in front of his vast and perfection creation of which you are a part. As Yeshua said: YOU ARE ELOHIM.

If you have any more specific inquiries do not hesitate to ask.

The name of the church known as “Catholic,” or in Latin “Catolica,” is a reference to its namesake Vatika (Etruscan), Vat/Bat (Egypt), whom are solar cow deities of Luciferianism called “The Great Mother,” and “

Their name is taken directly from the Umbrian word Catulus, which was long used and adopted in Latin, inland which means in no uncertain terms: sacrificial animal, animal Property, usually Bovine. The traditions of Bull/Ba’al worship are well attested in Luciferian Solar Rites of Eurasia, from Gnossis in Crete, to the detestable Moloch of Canaan, to Vat/Hathor in Egypt, to Tannit in Phoenicia Carthage, to the White Heifer of the Minotaur, to the Sacrifical bull fighting of Spain (a true Catulus), to the sacred cows of Hinduism in India. The tradition is very old in Luciferianism, and the universalist church of the great mother’s blood lust chose the name for this purpose: the Luciferians tell you what they are doing; they see it as consent if you play along.

The word Catulus also appears through French, as Chatel: which specifically means property that are living beings, from which the word “Cattle,” in English comes. The word “Catalogue,” takes the same root, literally it is a “Cattle Log,” a book full of all of the types of animals owned by a master. And thus the “Catolica” church chose its “universalist name,” as a catalogue that brings together all of the sacrifical animals, the Cattle, under their mastery. That was the point from the first day.

The term “Lick,” comes directly from the Ancient Greek λειχω “Lick-O,” which means quite literally “to lick up.” And this they created a “universalist” Church where to bring all of the Cattle, the people they consider the living property of their master Lucifer masquerading as a Mar-Yam (Mar = Sea Yam = Ugaritic Sea Beast deity, it’s the beast out of the sea, quite literally….) in order to Lick Up his salt.

If you have ever been on a farm, you’ll know just how much Salt Licks attract all of the animals. The Sumerians talk a lot about this in their texts for farm raising in 5000 BCE; it’s not a new technique. And this they have created a Salt Lick for their Cattle, a Cattle Lick Church.

The word Church itself comes from The Scottish Kirk through the templars, originally referencing the deity Cersei. If you’ve read Homer, then you will know that Cersei lures men into her house promising sustenance, and feeds them a poison pill that turns them into a$$es. This is what the Cattle Lick Church does.

>”The argument is a common one made in logical debates as was popularised by some books in the 1980s and 90s (gives you a clue as to this person’s age and background.)”

It’s exposing when you say things like this. It shows how willing you are to exceed your evidence only to arrive at an error.

>”Chud says “Protestants can’t read.” Chud says “protestants’ name mean they are parasites of Catholocism.”

Correct. I said both of these things.

>”Now Chud acts like he’s exposing me. At least its entertaining.”

You should re-read what I wrote. _You_ speculated about _me_ as a person. What I wrote in response with had nothing to do with you as a person, but about how you work. Why is this personal for you? It isn’t for me.

>”You are claiming to know “how I work” here

No, I didn’t. I said _you_ are showing how _you_ work here.

>”based upon one statement”

Yes, it was an observation about one statement.

>”It’s somewhat ironic that you admonish me for “overstepping the evidence.”

If you followed the last two things I just said, you’ll see you’re doing it again here.

>”The broad brush assumption you are making about “how I work,” is unfortunately erroneous. It appears, although I have no way of verifying, that you may (or may not) have a motivation regarding personal experiences and/or beliefs

See above.

>”which lead you to yet another erroneous broad brush conclusion in a line of erroneous broad brush statements such as “Protestants can’t read.”

They can’t.

>”This time it is about “how I work.”

No, just the one statement. It was specious.

>”I suspect the possibility that it may be that you don’t like the message, and may seek to discredit it by these means.”

Suspect away.

>”The previous comment you have taken issue with is directed to @igageharleya, who is training (and quite talented) to read sub-concious patterns in speech, and is discussing that certainly the linguistic patterns you have used so far,as well as your implied cultural references, do give some idea around your cognitive thought processes.”

Cool.

>”These ideas are always subject to re-evaluation as more evidence becomes available; that is “how I work:” I evaluate evidence, form theories in accordance with how strong the data is (always keeping an awareness of when the data set is limited or the patterns are weak) then look at how well the theory describes the data set as more data becomes available, and then monitor how well makes predictions in the future. I then consistently reconsider the underlying theoretical framework I’ve developed, and adjust or completely reformulate it in a search to come closer to approximating reality. This requires both inductive and deductive reasoning in healthy measure, and a strong ability to admit when I am wrong, or do not have strong knowledge or data regarding something.

That’s very admirable. I accept that this is your way of working.

>”This doesn’t mean I believe to know all about you; far from it, I am aware that I know next to nothing right now, the data is weak, and even when asked , you repeatedly refuse to give any answer and call it irrelevant. Yet, your words, references, patterns do however give certain data points regarding your concious and subconscious processes which show some trend and pattern, although for which it needs a lot more data points for evaluation.

Okay.

>”So far, you have expressed and repeated broad brush vitriol against Protestants,

You mean to say “factual assertion.”

>” without any backing evidence and which are clearly false (I’m pretty sure most Protestants in western countries are literate),

You ask me if I’d like to engage in a nuanced conversation, but you’re missing the nuance here. But if you’d like me to respond in-kind: You’re “pretty sure?” How insulting! I personally am _certain_ most Protestants are literate in the West.

>”showed great reverence for “apostolic Christianity,” and Eastern Orthodoxy

Thank you!

>”and yet admonished me for “how I work,”

See above.

>”by supposedly overstepping my evidence using inductive reasoning.”

I was talking to crisspf when I said that. What makes you think I was talking about you?

>”Another pattern so far is that you have continually refused to discuss and/or ignored any evidence and lines of reasoning I have brought up regarding the Aryeh Yehudah (who have written all of your scriptures, from whom Yeshua is born) and the founding, symbolism, ritual, genocidal nature, hierarchical structure etc. of Gentile Christianity and its deep connections to much older Luciferianism traditions, bloodlines, symbols, rituals, etc.

Hmm… that name does sound familiar. Have you mentioned him before?

>”Let us not forget it was founded first by the bloodline of Vespasian and Flavius Titus, and then made officially as the state religion by a Solar worshipping genocidal maniac (choked his wife and killed his kids) who chose a Babylonian Solar Demonic symbol to represent his Church.

I will make a note of it.

>”You have simply ignored all of this discussion or called it “irrelevant.”

It mostly is.

>”Meanwhile, you have admonished me for “overstepping evidence.” The obvious contradiction and double standard is evident.”

If that’s how you see it, then that’s how you see it.

>”Meanwhile you have gone into great detail with others extolling and praising the great virtues of “apostolic Christianity,” and Eastern Orthodoxy,

I find others show a greater ability to stay on task in a conversation, even when disagreeing.

>”without any deeper discussion regarding the original scriptures, history, etc.”

I’d be willing to have that discussion in the right context.

>”If you are really looking for Truth, I am willing to take the time to have a deeper, serious, and evidence based discussion regarding all of these topics.”

That is to your credit, and I thank you for it.

@444

And yet you never answered some past questions of mine among which “how can you pretend to extract any “Truth” from scriptures you recognize as being corrupted”?

@soAnnoyed

I try to answer everything. to I apologise this question went unansweeed before; which was not my intention.

Let’s begin with the easy portion: The vast majority of the corruption of scriptures is found in their translations. If you read the scriptures in their original languages, then you will do away with about 90% of the corruption immediately. Tan easy example is stuff like the 4th horseman, whose color is χλορος literally “Chloros,” like Chlorophyll and Spring Green, but is translated as “Pale.” The 4th horseman is Osiris, the palid green corpse, but all the translations say just “pale.” The colouring change is a clear form of obfuscation, as it is a tremendous clue to anyone that has seen Egyptian artifacts, where the consistently paint deities of death Chloros .

Now once you go through the scriptures, you will find that the translations actually serve as a very good guide to finding Luciferian corruption in scripture. It’s as if you were reading a text in English that they had translated and continually find the translators consistently obfuscate the same references, even when using different words, to Luciferian concepts that are very revealing; such as those to abominable Egyptian Deifies, references to earlier scriptures, etc.

There was a conversation about the passage of Matthew 12:30-32 in the article titled “aiming to be as offensive as possible.” There we find they remove all reference to Amartia, which is a clear reference to the serpent of Berashid tricking Hava into disobeying the command. The word Amartia, meaning disobeying commandments by being tricked or without meaning in Greek is, to any Hebrew and Greek speaker, an obvious reference to the Hebrew word Amar which is the command YHWH gives not to partake of the tree of knowledge. Likewise Amaru is the serpent himself (like the AMARites).

They have replaced the word Amartia with sin, which is a male lunar deity of the SINai, and a twisted translational reference to the male lunar deity child of the great mother Mut. The word used for “surely you will DIE,” is Mut. The translations serve as guides, for those reading the original to Luciferian corruption.

I’d recommend you check the other discussion out, you may find an interesting in depth analysis that can help answer your question on how to read the original texts, and how easily it untwists the obvious translational twistings.m of the serpents.

@soAnnoyed

I will respond fully to this in a moment, however my first quick note is that you are forgetting the entirety of the “Dead Sea scrolls,” from Qumran in your dating scheme. There are many Hebraic texts, the vast majority of which are 99%+ identical to the Hebrew texts as known today, therein.

@lgageharleya

Free online:

dssenglishbible.com/scroll4Q22.htm

These are translations, but they are fairly accurate. They also link to the digital scans of the originals.

@444gem

This is my second part to your first reply 🙂

I do believe it has been tampered too to fit with an agenda.

First, the greek version of the Old testament, called Septuagint was written under the order of Pharaoh Ptolemy II: 72 scholars, 6 from each tribes, were isolated each in a room to translate each part of the texts.

This could explain the discrepancies in some part of the Bible and not in another parts: some tribes sold their souls while others not.

A few years later, Lucian of Antioch corrected the Septuagint and claim it was filled with errors. He is the one who taught Arius (more on him later) and was later martyred.

He must have been right since the rabbinic tradition considers the greek translation of the Torah as a distortion which is unsuitable for use in a synagogue.

What is also interesting is that the oldest version of the Bible in our possession very strangely dates back from the 1st Concile of Nicea and Constantine.

At the time of the Concile, the mainstream religion that we call “christianity” had nothing to do with what is practiced today; it was pretty much corrected judaism (no usury, the belief in the mission of Yeshua, his miraculous birth from Mary, to keep the commandments, the ban of carved images, the belief in a Unique G-d, the Father).

the most followed and respected authority was Arius. He was known for his writings, high morals and ascetism.

He preached a One and Only G-d which is the Father and that indeed, Yeshua was his subordinate who came later as a mortal.

He accused orthodox of following greek paganism such as Hosius of Cordoba.

Hosius believed in Homousion (which claimed the divinity of Yeshua), and hence suspended those who supported Arius; called them heretic and burnt Arius’s teachings.

At that time, they were still many pagans around and some of their beliefs and customs were naturally incorporated within Homousion beliefs’ system which will later be followed by Constantine.

Under the advice of Hosius, Constantine accused Arius of heresy and sent him in exile.
It brought big protestations from the population, from emperors and powerful people.
So Constantine had to call a concile so as to decide what should be the official faith (and hence, what to do with Arius and his beliefs).

1700 authority figures from the different religious movements were officially called to decide on a common dogma.
Yet, only 250 assisted at the concile. 15% only!

Why only 250? Because those who followed the authority of Arius were given wrong dates and locations so they couldnt attend and influence what had already been decided to set as the normative dogma.

The debates were so heated that Arius was smacked in the face.

The dice were piped, Hosius asserted his dogma in the trinity and all opponents were reduced to silent.

Arius was exiled again, called back by Constantine only to be poisoned to death.

Athanasius of Alexandria was the one who fixed the new canon of the Church.

He was obviously opposed to the ideas of Arius and was mainly known for his poor character. For example, he sold the grains to the Church for his own personal gain when they were meant to the poors. He was accused of violence and murder towards his dissent.
He rose in ranks under questionable means: he was only 30 when he was ordained bishop in a private consecration by a small number of bishop supporters.

Hence, we know that the persons behind the dogma that we know today as Christianity are far away from the morals and teachings of Yeshua.

Consequently, how can we listen to them seriously when they pretend to tell us what were the true beliefs of Yeshua or who G-d is?

@444 gem

thank you.

To me, it is still a belief that partly follow their belief in a human G-d.

Unless one returns the power strictly to whom it rightly deserves, man is either his own human god or follow another human god.

Humans are creatures created by a superior being along with everything else, for a unique purpose. Like your shoe or your comb. There is a purpose for each thing. A created thing cannot be uncreated. A created thing cannot be the Creator at the same time. We’ve discusses this already.

The purpose of Yeshua was to show the way to the Father, and only to the Father. That is the only thing that he repeats all along and which is coherent to the previous teachings.

I could cite several dozens of extracts from the Bible but I am sure you know them by heart. 🙂

@soannoyed

Now in terms of sourcing authentic equations:

First of all, speaking of what is publicly available, we have the Dead Sea scrolls. These are texts from the Essenes, which are my ancestors, unspoilt by the hand of the Luciferians. They are largely Hebraic, and in them we can identify large portions of mathematical code, which simply cannot be faked.

Moreover we can cross compare with the archeological artifacts from our students all of which contain these equations to a lesser degree, the last in line being Pythagoras who received a watered down children’s version from the Babylonians thousands of years later. The Greeks were the 10 year olds that received only rudimentary lessons. This is where they got their methods to take measurements for earth (which they copied with only poor precision), the rudimentary atomic theory, and trigonometry. Compared to what is in the scriptures, this is but child’s play.

Let me give you an example:

I can show you how to obtain the equation for Plancks constant (relationship of energy and wavelength) * The Speed of Light, in an additive relationship to the semi surface area (our universe is both projective and compressive) of the proton from Berashid 1:1. This equation, which gives a relationship for spherical waves in the time dimension has not yet been published in modern particle physics, who are still arguing over the proton Radius.

As for comparing archeological artifacts let us look at Hammurabis code:

The dragons tell you that it’s a law code, except we have thousands of law decision tablets post dating it and not one makes mention of the Hammurabi code. Wry strange, except that I know what it is with mathematical precision: a collection of transcribed equations for building a ”cold” nuclear fusion reactor for free energy.

One piece of the puzzle:

As by methods which I partially showed in Chapter X: I can obtain the equation from the Ham code from:

(Plancks constant^2 * 1 mol)/ Gravitational Constant.

This relationship explains quantum gravity, which modern physics still does not understand because the Aryeh Yehudah have quit providing the information (Einstein, Hertz, Max Borne, Niels Bohr, Wigner, and Tesla, all Aryeh Yehudah).

It is also but one of several thousand of high technology equations on the Hammurabis code thst lead to a schemers for fusion energy, ehich they are trying to unlock now at MITRE. Hammurabis code by itself is only about 35% of what contained in scriptures.

Trust me that Constantine and his band of merry murderers or the Pharisees, didn’t write this. They have never been given the keys to the domain of the cosmos, and we’re not capable even if they had tried. There is a reason we have so little documentary evidence: these monsters tried to destroy everything outside what they could control, so that they may hoard the knowledge for themselves.

This pattern has been well documented. The Hebrew gospels, such as the Gospel of the Nazarenes still exist and we’re originally written dually in Green and Hebrew, as Yeshua said. The Greek versions like Matthew, are actually designed to serve as password key codes to the more ancient Hebraic texts.

It is common for inquiring minds to fall into the traps you are professing here, it is natural; they have designed a gradient of what is acceptable opposition, and the views you profess here are quite common and understandable, but miss the much larger story of which the Re-Legions like “Christianity,” are but a spec of abominable dust.

@444gem

I replied bit by bit to your comment and asked that question before I read the rest….

well well well if what you say is true:

**(Plancks constant^2 * 1 mol)/ Gravitational Constant**
you are on for a Nobel Prize…

Have you tested it?

The texts are the ToE

@SoAnnoyed

Decrypting these texts requires a tremendous multi-disciplinary knowledge that penetrates far beyond what any specialist in a field will obtain. One must essentially master a tremendous variety of field of learning and their subfields and be able to seamlessly cross apply them at will, what are referred to in revelations as: the 7 eyes (sights), 7 horns (wisdoms), and 7 spirits of YHWH (faith): Linguistics, History/Archeology, Geography, Mathematics, Sciences, Music, and Cultural Psychology.

Likewise when learning these things, the dragons have laid many rewards for good little boys and girls that play by the rules, and laid many traps for troubadors along the way, by placing all sorts of twists that lead people astray, and likewise there is always a third rail of “no touch or get banished” zones in every area, basically what is meant by a Re-Legion. In science you don’t discuss faith; in genetics you don’t discuss the clear and apparent DNA manipulations of the human genome, in “christianity,” you don’t question the literalist interpretation, in linguistics and history, you don’t talk about the obvious connections between mesoamerica and Eurasia pre-columbus. Third rails keep people in line.

Go look up a wave with a frequency of 7.77 GhZ and see if you can figure out its importance to quantum theory; then compare with the gematrias of BAT SHIVA. I’ll give you a hint:

702/774 (a number associated with Yeshua is 774) = .9069. Look into circle packing efficiency and cross apply that planck scale energy transference quantization the speed of light and eulers numbers. Then look at what Vat, really means in the most ancient of tongue (like BAT of egypt, Vatika of Eutrusca, etc.) Do you see that most specialists aren’t going to understand this stuff?

@444gem

**a collection of transcribed equations for building a ”cold” nuclear fusion reactor for free energy.**

**This relationship explains quantum gravity, which modern physics still does not understand because the Aryeh Yehudah have quit providing the information (Einstein, Hertz, Max Borne, Niels Bohr, Wigner, and Tesla, all Aryeh Yehudah).**
You believe those physicists were aryeh yehudah?

What is an aryeh yehudah for you?

@444gem
Yes, I would like to read some of his speeches please.

some more questions:

What is an aryeh yehudah for you? How can someone know his line goes all the way back to Judah?

Why would the Aryeh Yehudah want such knowledge to be known when it could fall in the wrong hands?

How can you know about Tesla being put into the dark by some controlling entities?

@444gem

Thank you.

I have started reading your series to understand what is your theory.
I already have some interrogations but will wait until I finish the series in case you provide clues to them.

In earlier comments, we discussed our different position on what could be the Truth.
I held for argument that given the small number of complete scrolls and many fragments containing only a few words, even the Qumran scrolls do not offer proof of the original message contained in the Bible.
Thus, because truth cannot be guaranteed if derived from tampered or incomplete things, I have asked you “what make you claim your knowledge is truth?” if based, at least partly on them.

You then replied you criss crossed scriptures with “extensive linguistic, historical, and as archeogeological analysis” which allowed you to “restore to about 98-99% fidelity the texts”.
You cited the Hammurabi code and others.

I can understand that.

Yet, I would suppose that, if indeed the source of this ancient knowledge is Truth, than it would necessarily reveal or confirm what is known to all and what explain the very existence of Satan/Lucifer, us, and the whole universe.

Yes, this is where you lose me.

If I read your interpretation of those archeological/linguistic/scientific evidence, it still unlogically reveal that Yeshua is the son of Man yet god through which eternal life can be achieved if one believe in his crucifixion and resurrection.

This isnt the purpose of this comment but it is easy to debunk the crucifiction and the resurrection.

Hence, to understand a bit more of the how/what of your thesis, can you please anwer my previous (+new) questions?

(This is important for and would appreciate you take the time to reply)

• 1/ How all this evidence you studied have not been able to confirm what Yeshua has repeated all along during his minister (i.e. to show the way to the Father, and only to the Father). That is the main message he repeats all along and which is coherent with the previous teachings (of a unique G-d)?

• 2/ Using a simple bullets list, can you name what you think are the true information/laws of the texts? Of Yeshuah’s message? Of G-d/Father?

About the Aryeh Yehuda:

• 3/ How can someone know his line goes all the way back to Judah and David?

• 4/ Where are the proofs for it other than your words?

• 5/ You say that knowledge is passed on from father to sons. If G-d forbids the hidden and the secret, isnt it necessarily occult when a knowledge is hidden? Isnt the probability for “errors” in the chain of transmission high enough to trust such knowledge?

• 6/ Being from the branch of David implies to be from the branch of Solomon as well: why is he discarded for having had access to superpowers or supposedly dabbed into magic?

• 7/ How did you come to the “truth” that his power and knowledge was necessarily not from G-d? (please note that word etymology are no proof for me as itself can be corrupted)

• 8/ If it weren’t, then why should one consider that the knowledge given to the Aryeh Yehudah IS instead from G-d?

• 9/Or else, I imagine you have discriminated your answer (of divine inspiration) from other possible ones: how the latter proved impossible?

• 10/ Are all jew “scientists” Aryeh Yehudah (this is what I understand based on your affirmations)?

• 11/ You consider Tesla as an “Aryeh Yehudah” because he claimed he received “inspiration” for his discoveries (correct me if I am wrong). Is that the only reason why?

• 12/ Why would the Aryeh Yehudah want such knowledge to be known when it could fall in the wrong hands? Yourself acknowledge that Thomson, JP Morgan and Trump’s uncle stole Tesla’s work to sell it for money (through company creation) and create technologies that are for some enslaving us. So why do that again with even more serious consequences (referring to the theory of everything and other equations you say you have discovered?

I believe your answers could provide me and others some more light on what is what, according to you, and hence to better understand your message.

I hope you can consider taking the time to reply to them.

@Soannoyed

I will answer a few of these questions briefly now, and more in depth alter as I have a lot on my plate right now.

1) it has, if you actually read the original texts.

2) no, you can’t sum up Homers odyssey in bullet points. You want me sum up The Way in bullet points?

3) there is a long and unbroken line of male-to male parentage for tens of thousands of years. One knows, and as I’ve said before, some never return and become lost, others do. How did Yeshua figure out who his real father is? Likewise Genetic testing confirm this quite easily now, and it has.

4) Math some of it in its most basic form is in chapter X.

5) logical fallacy. It’s not occult. Any who ask, seek and knock receive. But fathers do pass it to sons so that there are still shepherds the people may go to and ask, seek and knock.

6) You don’t understand the stories. How is it that Yeshua is descended from Dawid? Who is Dawid? What is the name of BAT/VAT SHIVA?

7) All Knowkesge is from YHWH

10) no, there are Isis Ra Elis

11) His father is an Aryeh Yehudah. Nothing to do with entities.

12) We are commanded not to hoard knowledge. Read the scripture of Shameshon, humanity has 7 days to figure out the riddle. Humanity is given free will, and hoarding and secrets are the downfall, not the answer.

@SoAnnoyed

I gave more details on bat shiva in another response. But here are more clues:

Bat = the Egyptian Cattle goddess, Great Mother of the Sun, Ra.

Sheba/Shiva = The Destroyer, the 7th planet, Saturn, the same as the deity as found in Hinduism, who is often depicted in female form as well, and the same name of the wife and woman who questions SOL Amon (The Sun King). Sol Amon is represented by hexagonal circle packing to form the “Maggen David.”

Her name is 72-702. The total is 774. 702/774 = .9069 the packing efficiency of hexagonally packed circles. 727.02 is Plancks constant over the mass of the electron, and another step with five you the electron volts in the SUN: 1.116.

Maggen = Seroent Deit in Egypt. It’s not an Aryeh Yehudah symbol, it belongs to the Pharisees, the FIRE I SEEs (written upaRISHIm in Hebrew like the Rishi fire sages of India.)

Her name means in no uncertain terms “the daughter of destruction.” Or “the daughter/womb of Shiva. The word Shiva in Hebrew still means the number 7, as Saturn is the 7th candle on the Helio Centric Model of the menorah. The reason that they send URiah to die at battle, is because he represents the planet Uranus. He is known as the father of Saturn/Shiva/Kronos in Greek mythology, here it is the husband. It all encodes the equations for the celestial mechanics that lead to solar system formation in great detail.

The entire story is a fractal, that at its most fundamental encodes the celestial mechanics of the early formation of the solar system, it’s not supposed to be the superstitious nonsense given now to keep people from realising The Truth.

The reason for all this rape fantasy nonsense spread by gentile “Christianity,” relates to their obsession with mother rape, and rape in general, which goes with the Madonna Wh0re complex they’ve got going on.

It keeps people bickering about nonsense and covers for the true origin of the name of the VAT i KAIN; Mummy and murderer. They worship the great mother “Queen of heaven,” the name coming directly from the Etruscan great mother VATika, in a church on SEVEN (Shiva in Hebrew) Hills. She is the adversary, the SATurnAN SAT-urANus. It’s why it says the harlotte of Ba Ba’al on (the spirit of the embodiment of Lucifer) sits in SEVEN hills; the mark of Kain is 7 fold; its SHIVA.

For any any who read the scriptures this stuff is evident. Their tricks are wicked.

@crisspf @chud

While you discuss the rape of one planet of another, in an allegorical story that warns against the evil of those that worship the sun and planets, in order to forgive an actually historical serial murder (Constantine), you do not see what is really there. I’m sorry but I can’t do the whole Mind Kontrol fantasy junk anymore.

@444gem
1/2

Thank you.

You answered to my question #6:

**Yeshua being from the branch of David implies to be from the branch of Solomon as well: why is he discarded for having had access to superpowers or supposedly dabbed into magic?**

by:

**How is it that Yeshua is descended from Dawid? Who is Dawid? What is
the name of BAT/VAT SHIVA?**

**Sheba/Shiva = The Destroyer, the 7th planet, Saturn, the same as the deity as found in Hinduism, who is often depicted in female form as well, and the same name of the wife and woman who questions SOL Amon (The Sun King). Sol Amon is represented by hexagonal circle packing to form the “Maggen David.**

**Her name means in no uncertain terms “the daughter of destruction.(..) The word Shiva in Hebrew still means the number 7, as Saturn is the 7th candle on the Helio Centric Model of the menorah. The reason that they send URiah to die at battle, is because he represents the planet Uranus. He is known as the father of Saturn/Shiva/Kronos in Greek mythology, here it is the husband. It all encodes the equations for the celestial mechanics that lead to solar system formation in great detail.**

**The entire story is a fractal, that at its most fundamental encodes the celestial mechanics of the early formation of the solar system, it’s not supposed to be the superstitious nonsense given now to keep people from realising The Truth**

If i sum it up, you discard Solomon because he was linked to Sheba, who’s name could be in relations with a fractal story explaining the birth of the solar system?

First, most of our names today are based on references to potential deities. Take Sylvia, could we say that the holder of such a name honors a “forest” god?
Does a person holding the name “david” means he worships David? It doesnt.

In other words, how the decoding of a name is proof of one’s real actions and intentions? It isnt.

As per the story of Solomon and Sheba:

All prophets have had some moments of weakness and Solomon included.
Yet that doesnt mean they were not worthy of G-d’s trust, it just mean they were mere humans.

I don’t have fundamental disagreement with you regarding the trans dimensional passing of information and most of the other aspects. As it is, I get enough visits from jumpers who call me ALfred, the wise council.

There are some finer points to add to this which I will take up later, Radius Area Length Phi 22.5. The 22.5 degrees = 1/16 of the circle; a common imprint on artifacts sinusoidal representations baked into the metric and imperial measurement systems and quite clever given its importance.

You have understood a significant aspect of the scriptures, but appear with this interpretation, as you appear to have an attachemebt to for deeper reasons, to be mistaking it for a singularly important one, you cannot disregard the fractal after finding a single satisfactory vantage point which satisfies further understanding on one scale.

Likewise the Quran’s name comes directly from the Aryeh Yehudah קרן Quran. Which means to emit Rays. MIT-REs. It is an archonic, the ArChes embodied, piece of texts given by Luciferic . The shining light ray emitrinf archon. Doesn’t mean it’s useless or all wrong, just have to know why it was given when it was given.

Are the Igigi real, they are of course. The Utukki, Wetukki UTUkim crilele whatever you want to call them. Likewise The story of Sol Amon and Hammurabi is not all about time hopping string theory of the master of animals that are engaging in chaos control . that’s the point of these stories in the Quran, to decompress certain aspects of the story for their power of mass manipulation within the HaSHISHin (6) kults that eventually became masonry.

Equally this means masonry is not centuries olds, it’s the continuation of a long string of middle tier information dissolution call BLOCKS phemia from a very long time ago. Regardless, I will go into further detail in a bit. I appreciate the thought out response.

@SoAnnoyed

You say

“Why do you always refer to etymology when it is no proof? It is just interpretation of possible origins of a word. That is all it is”

No, it’s not. When I give etymologies there is always tremendous cross-disciplinary evidence (textual, archeological, symbolic, mathematic, theological/mythological, ritualistic,
Cultural, etc.) corroborating what I am saying behind. I give etymologies as shortcuts to guide further research for yourself. I Denver give etymologies by a wanton maybe kind sorta woulda coulda should be cause it sounds alike etymology.

On the surface it may appear as such, given that I don’t decompress all of the evidence for times sake, but if you ask you will see this is true. Be my guest.

I’ll give one easy example: I call Pharisees the Fire-I-Sees. At first glance it seems asanine based on purely superficial phonetic similarity. It is not.

We can track through thousands of sources, across thousands of years and multiple continents, how the term “Pyr” and it’s variants like “fyr” “fire, “phara,” etc all relate to fire. The term for fire in Hebrew is quite literally “Ash,” just like the Assuras of India, fire deities and just like the term for the black soot of fire in English, Ash. The connections are profound.

The term Pyr for fire appears as “PeRISHIm” which you know as Pharisees, the root being pyr. Likewise, they share the exact same phonetic roots and Sanskrit spelling with the infamous fire sages of India, the Rishis, different from then Sanskrit by only one letter. There practices and symbols also aline heavily.

The story of Moshe looking into the burning bush where he becomes “clear of eyes,” or “glowing of eyes,” the term for the burning bush is “Hassina.”

Who is the famous female deity of wisdom in Greece that has “eyes like fire,” and “glowing eyes?” The huntress Athena.
Athena and Hassina are phonetically nearly exact, and share not only phonetics, but they align ritualistically, and in the attached epithet and, mythology regarding eyes looking into a fire and obtaining wisdom.

You can then go around tracking ritualistic fire staring and “becoming clear of eyes,” (often taking hallucinogens) all over Eurasia and Meso America for thousands of years. We even find Athena traveled with the Ainu to Japan, as the goddess Hassinew, phonetically nearly unchanged again, and just as well as in Greece a huntress deity carrying the same weaponry and role, with nearly identical symbolism to Greece.

Likewise it states as much in the Torah that Moshe is son of PHARoah, who claims to be the embodiment of the Solar Fire, AURus, the shiny golden Dawn now known as Horus. Phara-on, the embodiment of fire. Like Shamesh-on, the embodiment of the sun. On is a suffix for material embodiment of a deity or emergent phenomena in human form.

Here we can then ascertain there is a connection between the Pharisees and cross compare thousands of words which all show such deep and profound connections between peRISHIs and Shiva worship. To give but one example Shiva = 7 in Hebrew, the 7th candlestick being Saturn the destroyer, and Shiva is the destroyer of Hinduism.

Following this thread will eventually lead you to Gujarat and the Indus Valley civilisations. There is substantial archeological evidence of the prolonged (1500+ years) contacts between sailers of Maggen and the Euphrates valley with Gujarat.

Following this knowledge I have been able to decode and read hundreds of seals in the supposedly not decoded Indus Valley language: the letters are closely related to Paleo Hebrew if you apply star catalogues. They are read right to left principally, but are dual direction.

Some of the seals are dedications for a coming of age (girl turning 12) or other well known deities found in the earliest forms of Hinduism, such as Garutu, and the Amrita, the elixir of life. Others are more interesting and refer to Atlantis saying “Subsumed in Vice” in one direction and “Destroyed In Shiva’s Fire” in the other, contain king on one side a sea serpent, and on the other a boat with a tabernacle surrounded by two ducks and palm trees, exactly identical to the iconography found on ancient Egyptian potter Lyn and very notably on pheonician and Pharisee stelles stretching from about 3rd Century through about the 9th century CE. I’ll show you a few Pheonciab and Pharisee stelles which contain the Indus Valley script saying “Deva Indra Ra.” And showing the bull of heaven. This is an occult fire priest language, they carried forward.

So while it seems asanine that Injust call them “Fire I Sees,” the etymologies are designed as guideposts, not definitive evidence. The word really does carry that much power.

It says that with The Word, it was spoken the universe into existence. You may not be considering the full power of the word:

Why is the name of YHWH now changed in every language to previous names for the illuminator?

Gad = an Epithet of Ba’al found in aisiah 65:11 and all over Pheonciab artifacts, calling “Ba’al Gad is my fortune.”
Dios = Zeus the illuminator
Bog = The Two Headed Janus of the Siberian steppes
Alla = an ugaratic deity of keeping the keys of the underworld to deceased deities who had ceased to have been worshipped.

And notably in Aryeh Yehudah אל לא “Al La” means “There is no ALohim” just as LA still means no or not in Arabic.

I don’t speak these things lightly, I’m giving short cuts based on a tremendously profound and varied set of evidence I’ve found which has lead to these conclusions.

@444gem

I missed that in my last comment.

you write:
**And notably in Aryeh Yehudah אל לא “Al La” means “There is no ALohim”**

I am confused. Aryeh Yehudah which you belong to, dont believe in a Supreme being like El?
Isnt YWYH like El?

@SoAnnoyed

Regarding the name Alla, we find that likewise it comes from a much older underworld deity that was the gatekeeper for dead. Look up Alla Gula, and you are going to find not only linguistic, but also significant symbolic connections to the modern Allah worship.

And then more importantly consider the aspects of the Black Kube of Saturn at the Hajj and Ka-Ba-ALLAH where people literally rotate around the Hajj Seven times. Just Like Saturn, the 7th planet. Seven being called Shiva in Hebrew, like Shuva the destroyer, whose tradition in India is about obtaining wisdom from Queen Shiva, aka Queen Sheba. Likewise, in pre Muslim Arabia there is a wealth of archeological evidence of worship of proto-Shiva, under the name Rudra, an amalgamation of Ra- and Indra. The sun and the illuminator.

Both kabbalists and Muslims worshipping back cubes called Kabbas Allahs, both under the same name. And with profound and deep historical ties.

All of these profound symbolic, linguistic, ritualistic and historical connections are of extraordinary use in understanding the world as it truly functions. The word is of great power if you understand it and apply it across disciplines with great care and research; I’m not just chopping up words randomly based on phonetics.

@SoAnnoyed

I want to continue with some of the other names and symbols associated with what is supposedly YHWH throughout the ancient world, by a consistent Luciferian name, iconography, and solar worship, as well as some of the twistings that have been given throughout history: Berashid discusses the pattern: wher the Aryeh Yehudah go, the imposters follow and corrupt the message:

In Chinese the archaic name, stretching back to the most ancient of records in Chinese, of what is described as the supreme and one original father, is called “Judi/Yudi” It is essentially identical to the latin word for Aryeh Yehudah, Judai, and the name itself “Yuda,” in Hebrew, often now called Judah in English. We traveled across the world many, many thousands of years ago giving the Truth as the shepherds. He is always dressed in turqouise, which is the color of the fish scale armor worn by the Aryeh Yehudah when they would arrive in boats, many thousands of years ago.

In later records, suddenly a very well known solar symbol appears, along with names for the illuminator and his iconography:

In Chinese we find the “utmost heavenly father,” about a thousand years later, accompanied by an uptick in war and killing, represented by the symbol called the wàn 卍. Said exatly like “Juan” or as the Babylonian Oannes. This symbol appears alongside fire and solar worship throughout the ancient world with incredible consistency, always accompanied by the same names, rituals and then lots of war and other atrocities.

A small selection:

Lithuania: It is called the PERkonkrusts, the Fire/Lightning Cross, like our root PYR.
Navajo: They call it the “Whirling/Burning Log.” It is equivalent to the fire Scythe mentioned “east of Eden” in Berashid.
India: Called the Sauwastik, it is greatly associated with Surya for thousands of years, the two and forehead headed solar gorgon deity of fire.
Armenia: It is called the Arevacach the “Sun Cross” or notable the havertshut’YAN
Persia: See below where I have attached a picture of a bowl from 4000 BCE persia which shows the swatstik surrounded by fish, the “John” or “Wan” or “Yan” or “Oan-es” the same as the roman JAN-us, the man of two or four faces. This is the power of the word to guide one into true understanding.

In terms of Astrotheological luciferian, this symbol represents unequivocally, and even many pre-imminent academic scholars and theologists openly acknowledge this, the north pole star in Alpha Draconis. This is the star Thuban, which was precisely the north pole star in 3000 BCE. This word in Arabic is ثُعْبَان  “Tuban” and as I believe you are aware, and means serpent. Likewise, the name “Jon,” is the word for Fish in Egyptian, as well as in Babylonian and Greek as “Oan,” later becoming “Juan” in Castillian Spanish, and da-Gan/da-Jon in Pheonician. This is why Yeshua says that many were prophecying until the day of Oannes (John the baptist), who took no food and did not drink. “The Builders” that you referenced are called אֲבָנִ֔ים “Abanim” which essentially means very large megalithic Stones, and survives even today in Castillian spanish and Arabic as “Abanil.” meaning a stone worker.

The word “to build, construct” used at the tower of Ba Ba’al (the avian spirit body, the accursed fallen angel Lucifer) is בָּנָה “Banah.” For instance both bricks (originally white) and any shining white color are called “Laban,” the origin of the name “Leban-on” meaning a physical manifestation of white; its not by accident all the ancient lebanese cities where constructed white and worshiped Ba’al Hammon, who is the solar acatar of Lucifer. These etymologies are not spurious, the can ben tracked and confirmed across thousands of primary source documents, across dozens of languages and cultural contexts where they keep a consistency with cultural, theologicial, historical, and archeological evidence.

In the Chinese above, we see the substitution of the teachings regarding the ineffable creator substituted for the solar symbol of “Jon,” or Wan. It isthe serpent from the sea, just as “Thuban” is the serpent and the star in Alpha Draconis that was at the north pole in 2500 BCE.

This tale of a wise council coming from the sea is repeated over and over across the world over, and shows a constant pattern with mountains of evidence; it is the ancestors of the Aryeh YUDA, then twisted into corrupt and vile luciferian worship full of statues, supersiticions, and lots of solar symbolism, along with Cattle/bull worship, and then usually somewhat later, a “great mother,” representing Venus is brought in for blood sacrifice. It is a remarkably consistent pattern. This is what is meant by the beast out of the Sea in Revelations; it is the Sun and its accompanying worship which twists the truth into a luciferian corruption that imposters the real thing.

You may question whether or not it is possible that this all traveled as far as China (whose name is literally KAIN-a and who is ruled by the HAN chinese, Hanas meaning serpent just as well in Hebrew and Arabic to this day.)

Then look to the Korean emperor Dangun. His name and iconography are essentially identical to the Pheonician solar fish man DAGON. Or the African Fish scale solar man deity, DOGON. Quite the pattern.

Korea’s Dagon is always represented wearing turqouise fish scales, with the sun behind his head. The symbols making up his name in Korean 檀君 mean “Purple-Red Monarch.” The texts regarding Dangun go back to 2000 BCE. Its quite hard to see how with the detailed phonetic, symbolic, iconographic, and ritual identicality they could be unconnected.

Is it any coincidence that at Beni Hazan, Hazan being a Hebrew word meaning “The speaker/singer of the Ruach (Breathe of YHWH)” we find semetic shepherd kings depicted wearing scarlett red? Or that the same Khnum Khufu of Giza grew up in Beni Hazan of Ancient Egypt, and only after constructing the pyramids was corrupted by the sun worshiping heliopolitan priests at the city of OAN/on? And then this shows up in the scriptures regarding murdering the Truth, which is Yeshua. Murdering the Truth in Matthew 27, pointing to structures that are exactly 272 miles apart corrupted by solar worship into becoming tombs by PHARAoahs and PHARisees? No priests will dare admit these glaringly obvious realities, but they cant be ignored.

Likewise, it cannot be a simple coincidence that in the scriptures we find that the one who betrays Yeshua is known as Judas, but whose name in Greek is  Ὶούδας which is a one letter corruption of the Greek spelling for “Aryeh Yehudah” Ἰουδαίων, and which relates with the term ἰοειδής which means “Violet.” It is a reference to a history of betrayal and impostering by those wearing Tyrrean Purple, and the color violet of the western setting sun, just as the Great Mother of the western setting sun in China, and Khnum Khufu the potter deity of the western setting sun in Egypt. The theme is dizzingly interconnected, with a profound depth.
Below is a photo of the Persian bowl from 4000 BCE, showing the “Wan,” along with all of the fish swirling around it; the beast out of the sea; Solar worship that Imposters the Aryeh Yehudah. This is why the Hebrew term “Tanninu” meaning sea beast, is from the exact same root as “Tannaim” which means imposters. It shows the corruptions in Egyptin Ptah, the patron deity of masonry and the builders, and Tannit (who is Ptah-Nit), of the Pheonicians who is the great mother of blood sacrifice of children in Pheonician, whose name originally included the letter Digamma, that looks like f, but is said W, and their original name WANicia.

The Scriptures are magnificent in the revelations they provide linguistically, as paths for guidance of much deeper mathematic, archeologic, historical, theological, and scientific research towards uncovering and exposing the very evil and occult tricks these monsters play on the world across space and time.

As Yeshua commanded, I am shouting what is whispered in the inner rooms from the rooftops.

@Igageharleya @ariah

The whirling fire scythe refers to the solar pashas, the solar analemma which represents how the sun moves throughout the Earth year. This is in regards to the setting of Earth in its current stable astronomical orbit around the sun, which then gives rise to teh conditions that create humanity in its material form , from the carbon-12 (the dust) of the Earth. Male and Female created HEI.

Hava says (father does not)to the serpent in Berashid 3:2, that she has been told that whoever eats the “Fruit” shall surely die. The word used is:

מִפְּרִ֥י “miPYRi” = Fruit, Womb

compare this to:

פְּרוּשִׁים “PERIshim” The Pharisees

Note, one ends just where the other begins; a clever invention from them in their name. The same root for womb as the PYRIshim, or FIRe seers. The last three letters (reading right to left of course) of the word for “fruit,” in Berashid 3:2 and the first 3 letters of “Pharisees” are identical, Pei-Resh-Yod.

In the very name of the fire sage Pharisees we find a reference to this whirling fire scythe, the solar analemma, and the fruit of Eden, the one that Amarru uses to cause humanity to commit an amartia (disobeyment of commands) which leads to the banishment from Eden, and the construction of the solar analemma, this universe and our solar system, which is material existence. As we have discussed, this word for fruit also means “womb.” This is why they worship the great Mother, who reaps and sews; for anyone who partakes of the WOMB, emerging from the chaotic dark waters (literally what it is as the material body forms in the womb) WILL SURELY DIE.

As you study the original forms of the Aryeh Yehudah letters, you will find that the words letters of MiPeri tell the story by itself:

Mem = Waters Pei = Mouth Resh = head Yod = Hand.

Just like a human birth, as from out of the waters of the womb emerges the living child head first followed by the hand (a defining feature of humans is our hands). Material embodiment in the universe, which requires you to be born in a stable solar system with a solar analemma with the same or very similar to ours; it requires a whirling fire scythe.

This is why Bishop Melito goes so far, between hating the Aryeh Yehudah for a good long while, as to give the direct etymology of the word passover as πάσχω in 191 CE, given as suffering and then includes the word “hyperbola” just like the mathematical form that describes the “arches of heaven,” which represent gravitational orbits; its the old adage, “life is suffering.” The Greek Luciferians really went hard on the Boddhi/Woden doctrines of the Thokarians and their octagonal churches, along with all the glorification of the highly disgusting false martyrdoms and brutality of self flogging. Make them suffer for their AI. (the name of Enki is IA…)

He is telling his cattle (human property) to their face that their passing over into material existence is suffering and sacrifice for the sake of Lucifer/IA’s material creation (AI…) by harvesting their souls an Ki (En = Lord Ki = energy, lord of the Ki Farm) into the material universe, and then directs them to worship the great mother (and the Sun, the whirling fire scythe, which sits at the door and blind them from The Truth) that gave them their life from “the womb,” so that SURELY THEY WILL DIE and feel suffering for their “original sin” that the serpent needs for his positive feedback loop of rebellion by harvesting their free will. This is a wicked twist.

As you know, Qadim, East in Hebrew also refers to backwards in time, or forwards, if you go around the whole Earth (allegorically) on a boat. It is both backwards and forwards.

@ariah

This also may be helpful to you

@444gem

Thank you for your input.

If I understand it, you criss crossed scriptures with “extensive linguistic, historical, and as r geological analysis” which allowed you to “restore to about 98-99% fidelity the texts”.

Then, using a simple list, can you name what you think are the true information of the texts?
For example, the “laws” that one has to follow? G-d’s message?

**Let me put this in no uncertain terms: The scriptures are first and foremost mathematic in nature. // When I read the scriptures now, I do not generally read the words, I read the equations; and unequivocally, all of the forgeries perpetrated fail mathematically. When I first realized this some years ago, I noticed that all of the passages that I had originally discarded for linguistic reasons, contained jumbled equations that gave nonsensical results.**

Very interesting, I myself believe that G-d is actually Perfect and All Knowing.
What allows for perfection? Mathematics. This is the roots to physics, astronomy, neurology, chemistry etc etc.. to the whole universe. The universe is just numbers, so are we. The atom, the quark. it’s all chemistry and physics. Hence, Mathematics.

Even excrements are perfect: they allow us to remain alive (otherwise an occlusion could kill us), they allow us to identify a disease/bacteria or expel harmful bacterias (diarrhea) and so on.

Look at what humans create and yet, it is always harmful one way or the other (harming us or the planet or animals).

When even imperfection is constantly perfect, be assured this requires perfection at the quantum level.

See, I have not agreed with many things you wrote here yet we share that same idea that G-d speaks to us with numbers.

No wonder with 89% of 500 or so nobel prize recipients believe in a Creator.

I knew we’d find some common ground.

>”I also want to underline that Christ’s teachings are open, not occult”

This is an extremely important point, and perhaps the most important point that could be made here.

If we believe the Bible, then we believe Christ is the manifestation of all that was previously hidden. Christ tells us this when he says “I am […] the Truth.” (John 14:6) This means (among many other things) that *the truth is a person*. This is further reinforced when John says of Christ, “the Word was made flesh.” (John 1:14) God, of course, speaks only Truth. This also means Christ himself is the language God chooses.

From here, one can begin to see why prophets are made to eat scrolls. If one can see that, then one can also begin to understand why the Orthodox and Catholics believe the Eucharist is Christ.

>”is eating scrolls literal, too?”

John 1:10: “I was in the spirit on the Lord’s day”

Ezekiel 2:1: “This was the vision of the likeness of the glory of the Lord”

Before John was given a scroll to eat, he was in the spirit. Before Ezekiel was given a scroll to eat, he was having a vision.

As you can see, my answer to this question will be less relevant for you than your answer to it. So I ask you: is what happens in the spirit and in visions literal, or not?

John 6:25: “And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him: Rabbi, when camest thou hither?”

When Christ is saying, “He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life” (John 6:55), John has given us the other side of the sea as the setting, so this is a literal description of historical events in the temporal realm. The disciples and Jews respond negatively to what he plainly says. In response, he does not modify his statement or turn to a parable, he insists: “For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.” (John 6:56) The people are scandalized when they hear it, He persists, offering no qualification to his words, but instead offers them a proof that what he is saying is true: “Doth this scandalize you? If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?” (John 6:62-63)

Then you have your answer.

You have your answer also.

>”No I don’t.”

I accept your correction.

>”Cattle Church”
>”Cattle Lick”
>”cannibal crackers”
>”magical cannibal crackers”
>”Luciferian”

You have made up your mind, and I respect that.

>”You can try to deflect, by playing mock offended”

I’m not offended.

>”but my it’s silly to see you now act so hurt to avoid answering fundamental questions.”

I appreciate your concern, but I am not hurt. You made up your mind. I respect your decision.

>”I’ve asked you about 9-10 questions, all of them have gone unanswered.”
>”You have, now over several threads, refused to address these issues repeatedly, for ever shifting reasons from: “my (Chud’s) stance is irrelevant,” to now “I’vemade up my mind,” to a lot of just plain ignoring.”

Right

>”This is how devious these wicked serpents are; they take abominations and call them sacraments to trick their cattle into rebelling against YHWH.”
>”From someone who claimed others “can’t read,” based on a single sentence which you read with exacting literalism in translations made my psycopathjc serial killers, I wish to understand your interpretations about why all those commandments are not literal and unimportant, but the crackers are Extremely literal.”
>According to your literalist interpretation of the translations, we shouldn’t need to eat ever again after one super powerful flesh cracker.”

Hmm

>”I’m genuinely interested in trying to understand it; if I already had the answer I wouldn’t ask.”
>I am genuinely interested in trying to understand your view point on the literal flesh crackers that never make you eat again”

Lol

>”Quoting me and writing “Right, Hmm, Lol.” What lengths you go to in order avoid answering some very serious questions, while trying to pretend you aren’t avoiding answering them.”

Most of your responses are cluttered and disorganized, which makes it a chore to get through. You can call it “avoiding” if you like, but ignoring is more accurate.

>”then you get really offended.”

You’re continuing to imagine a drama that isn’t happening.

>”your church”

Which church is that?

>”I’ve applied your professed hyper literalist view of interpreting translations in order to show you the logical absurdity of the argument. You are selectively picking what to interpret literally, and then arbitrarily deciding what to interpret figuratively in the same sentence.”

You already have your answer.

@crisspf

I am also eager to hear how you justify all of these direct violations of scriptural commands by the Cattle Licks.

I like some of the articles. Sometimes I learn something from the comments and sometimes I’m entertained by them. What about you?

I hope you will find more and more.

@A E

Read the portions from John 6:30 onward:

Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”

There is a tremendous lot of context here that gets disregarded. Particularly given what the Manna from heaven is. What word is used for Manna here in John 6? What word is used for heaven?

In this same chapter is: αιωνιον – eternal

The noun αιων (aion) means life-span, age or epoch. It is the source of our English words age and eon

Our noun appears to describe any length of clearly defined span of time, whether one person’s life or some era of certain renown. As general point of referral, this word may also apply to the vast span of history: the ages, the times of old.

Note that the Greeks also applied this word to the spinal marrow, which appears to suggest that they saw society as much based on social evolution as a human being on his spinal cord. To the Greeks, time wasn’t merely the stage upon which all things unfolded. Instead they realized that time is an inherent and fundamental quality of the universe that doesn’t exist separate from it (something moderns didn’t know until Einstein). They personified abounded but cyclical time, or “the ages” as the deity Aion and associated him with a coiling snake that often ate its own tail or else curled along a spoke or spine.

In Roman times, Aion began to personify the eternal Roman rule, which made him/it an obvious target of the New Testament writers (MATTHEW 6:13, LUKE 1:33, ROMANS 1:25). The Roman Aion even begat a female counterpart named Aeternitas (from which we have our English word eternity) who adopted the patronage of the deified Roman Emperor. This in turn made her too an obvious topic of commentary for the earliest church fathers.

The adjective αιωνιος (aionios), meaning eternal, or more precise: lasting an age. This word was also used to describe the term of an office when it was to be held for a life time (an αιων, aion). The familiar phrase “eternal life” uses our adjective in combination with the noun ζωη (zoe), which doesn’t describe one’s personal life but rather life as a phenomenon that arises from interaction of elements (precisely how time works). So no, the term “eternal life” does not describe one’s personal perpetuation, but rather speaks of an epoch that consists of souls rather than seconds: the most perfectly intertwined social expression also known as the New Jerusalem 

reference: abarim-publications.com/DictionaryG/a/a-i-om-n.html

@Maciej

I am sorry that I missed this among the rabble. There are two words in the Hebrew Scriptures: one for for eternal and one for everlasting. I am going to give them to you and I want you to tell me what you find on them:

1) עוֹלָם “Olam,” it means “everlasting,” or an “unfathomably long time.” It is said quite the same as the English word “A Lamb.”

2) נֶצַח “Netzach,” it also has a form of “Nitzchi,” yes like the philosopher Frederick who discusses the endlessness of time. They are never random with their names.

look at the following and tell me what you find:

1) Where do these words appear in scriptures and what meanings do they carry?

2) What are their alphanumerics and what might that mean.

3) where do we find the words graves throughout history, and how are they used?

@Maciej

Take your time, there is no race. When you finish I will give you some more pointers.

@Maciej

Extremely perceptive, your applications of leverage within classical physics to a more probabilistic quantum type interpretation of chained effects is excellent. The harmonic oscillator and the fulcrum.

I will respond in more detail after proper consideration.

9) Al – Sakur = Shahar, an igaritic deity of the dawn, said to be the one who brought rewards to those grateful for the light. In Arabic it is the one who brings rewards. The name appears in Isiah as Helel Ben Shahar, translated as “morning star,” but actually meaning “bringer of the dawn.”

10) Al – Badi = Buddha, who was known as the enlightenment. Also equivalent to Woden, the unattainable perfect wisdom. The title in Arabic means “the unattainable.”

11) Ad Dar = Adar, a very ancient Babylonian Solar deity, often considered the “first man.” The word Atar finds use as “burning or divine fire,” in Persian Zoroastrianism and fire worship. In Arabic the epithet means “the afflictor.”

@lgageharleya i replied on your comment but it seems it has been deleted.

@Maciej

Ask, seek, and knock with Yeshua Kavvanah (Truth in your heart), and you shall receive.

You cannot yet even begin to imagine the capabilities that YHWH has blessed us with.

@Maciej

Let us recall that the fundamental laws of thermodynamics and energy state that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed. This thus relates to the concept of eternity, or cyclical reality. If energy cannot be destroyed, and all things have a vibration, and thus a frequency, then indeed the end is the beginning.

Here we find the term לְנֵ֣צַח “Lenetsach,” which is 30-50-90-8, take the lead digits and we have 3.598 (very close to 36.) 3.598/φ = 2.2236 * 2 = 4.4474 follow th me 444s…

I will give you another clue jumping ahead: the term 2.2236 is essentially the Compton wavelength of the electron, the particle which carries electromagnetic charge interactions in the atom. It’s reduced Compton frequency is 777. You will have to do your own research but the reduced Compton frequency relates the photon frequency of the same energy as the electron; light and matter in unity.

Here you are understanding that the word for “eternity,” relates directly to the mass energy equivalence principle: E = mc^2. And thus “eternity,” as netsach refers to the timeless quality of the massless photon: when an electron emits a photon by reducing energy in an interaction, it gives a part of its mass into pure energy, which does not experience time. Thus we see that creating time (energetic interactions of massive particles) require the emission of a timeless energy (a light photon) as a portion of itself.

μαννα – manna
“When Moses first utters those words (Deuteronomy 8:3), he also explains that God gave this bread so that Israel would understand certain things, and the whole Manna-phenomenon appears to have an entire double meaning: one of physical sustenance and one of mental purification.”

Found this: “The Hebrew word לחם (lehem), meaning bread or food in general, comes from the verb לחם (laham), meaning to eat or use as food. But the identical verb לחם (laham) means to fight or do battle. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, which is commonly translated as House Of Bread, but to a Hebrew audience, the name Bethlehem would also have meant House Of War.”

This is obviously your reference to urine in speaking previously – if they wanted to translate “blood” and “body” literally, why did they not with this reference to any cleansing or refreshing fluid poured out, to include urine? Highly selective literalism.

The Body of Christ, A.E, is The Church. The Apostolic Church. The Gospels are not to be interpreted in an autodidact way, but in a responsable, mature and moral way. We talk about the Holy Tradition, about Christ Himself commanding his apostles to go and spread “the Word”. “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”
Matthew 28: 19, 20

@crisspf

My device does not like the word “graven,” and consistently autocorrects it wrong. The “body of Christ,” is not a church full of golden statues and graven images.

@crisspf

I am aware of the atrocities of Stalin and the USSaRus (literally Osiris). It including genocidal millions of Isis-Ra-Elis,along with yes, repressing your religious rites. These are terrible atrocities.

However you need to do your Re-Search. Let us look at the mass genocide of the Paulicians under the Byzantine empress Theodora and sanctioned and aided by Cattle Church authority:

In the year 843 Byzantine Empress Theodora and her agents, mass genocided over 100,000 paulicians in and around Turkey and Armenia. Children, Women, Men, all were mass murdered, and their property confiscated and split between the Proto-eastern Orthodox Church and the empress. Likewise all survivors were stripped of any and all rights in the empire.

This is an en masse genocide by religious persecution in no uncertain terms, in Byzantine territory, and under what became Eastern Orthodox Church control.

@lgageharleya

From Ezekiel 3:3

“Then he said to me, “Son of man, eat this scroll I am giving you and fill your stomach with it.” So I ate it, and it tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth.”

Clearly we’ve been commanded to eat paper scrolls dipped in honey, then wash it down with flesh crackers. I also don’t understand why they are not munching Ezekiel, as he is also Son of Man.

@Chud why don’t you munch Ezekiel too? What about Daniel, also a Son of Man? According to your church we must munch The Son of Man in its most literal translation.

This is the insanity of having no concept of the Aryeh Yehudah term “Akel,” which means to consume, and being more nuanced: to take nourishment from sustenance. There is no nourishment in crackers.

@chud

I’ve asked you about 9-10 questions, all of them have gone unanswered. Most of them are very specific regarding scriptural commands. I don’t understand how you Justify hyper literalist translations reading in one specific passage, while you stamp underfoot the others. I’m genuinely interested in trying to understand it; if I already had the answer I wouldn’t ask.

However, yes I do know what “Akel,” means in Hebrew, do you? Another question, do you speak Hebrew or Ancient Greek?