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Discussion: What do you guys’ think is the real reason the elites have a intense fascination with Indigenous North Americans? (news.yahoo.com)

Even the Vatican is in on this obsession and has stolen artifacts from them. Examples include when The Skull and Crossbones have stolen the remains of the warrior Geronimo and worshipped them until his family finally sued them and demanded them back. George Bush Jr’s. granddad Prescott was one of the members who helped grave rob him. Queen Elizabeth and her husband stole in broad daylight indigenous children back in the early 60s. Even on the forum, I found of a Rothschild answering people’s questions he mentioned Native Americans and his admiration of them. Many theories consist of seeing them as one of the last pure-blooded non-elite humans they could find to them being the lost tribes of Israel. Let me know what you think?

What do you think?

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LeFruit
LeFruit
1 month ago

They killed them to create the USA, psychopaths love to keep memories of their victims and mock them afterwards

jocko
jocko
1 month ago
Reply to  LeFruit

Indians did an excellent job of slaughtering each other. Their predecessors being highly murderous and cruel people.

jocko
jocko
1 month ago
Reply to  LeFruit

Indians were not one people. They, like near everyone else in history, took land form others to further their lives.

Meanwhile, in Oklahoma, Indians are murdering people and getting off completely because they have Indian blood in them. I heard th governor of the state speaking, saying men on death row in his state are doing blood tests, hoping they have enough Indian blood in them to walk away from death row. It is just more Leftist behavior to destroy the country.

Wayne
Wayne
1 month ago

I think there’s a simpler reason. Modern culture fetishizes extinct warrior traditions. Whether it’s Vikings, Samurai, Feudal Knights, Spartans etc. The fact that Native American warriors were subjugated, makes the fetishization even more potent from a sacrificial ritual POV. Their defeat has to be venerated in post victory ritual. It’s an honor, and at the same time a flex. The flex being that a worthy opponent was defeated, but the right tribe came out on top in the end

Sarah
Sarah
1 month ago

I’m Canadian and I work in the public school system. This is currently a huge issue in Canada, where new technology has discovered the remains of thousands of unmarked graves of children buried in residential schools across the country.
The First Nation parents had their children forcibly removed by the government and they didn’t even get their remains when so many perished due to maltreatment, abuse, unsafe conditions and disease. It is absolutely reprehensible what the Christian churches and the Canadian government intentionally did to F.N. children and their families for so long. It is a government and church funded and enforced mass cultural and racial genocide of First Nations children and it is unforgivable. Sexual and physical abuse of the First Nations children was rampant by the religious men in the schools. The least that can be done is to return artifacts that were most likely stolen.

Last edited 1 month ago by Sarah
Laz
Laz
1 month ago
Reply to  Sarah

Then they weren’t real churches, just the Phoenicians wearing them as skin suits.

John boy
John boy
1 month ago
Reply to  Sarah

Don’t think you’ve been keeping up with the news those “mass graves” contained no human remains and the story that was pushed by the mainstream media and the prime minister turned out to be fake news.

There were no retractions made in the media just another “oops we did it again” moment by the University researcher that “discovered” the “mass graves”

Why anyone would believe politicians the mass media and university professors these days is beyond me

Sulli
Sulli
1 month ago

I’d recommend reading “The Secret History of America” by Manly P Hall (a prolific 33rd degree Freemason) for a pretty thorough breakdown on the occult’s preoccupation with Native American mysticism and ritualism. Primarily it has to do with what they believe to be America’s “secret destiny” and divine purpose as the New Atlantis, which they believe will mimic the philosophies of The Great League of the Iriquois in unity of purpose and serving a collective greater good. They believe the indigenous Americans to be migrants of the old Atlantis, bringing to America their ancient wisdom, knowledge, and esoteric traditions (notably including sun worship.)

Here are a few excerpts that may paint a clearer picture:

“When the Atlanteans [American Indians] touched this soil, it’s vibration, whatever it was, immediately modified their nature and structure; for we find among the North American Indians at the most remote times something of a viewpoint that was peculiarly to be typically American, the viewpoint of democracy. Democracy had its beginning among the Atlantean people. It was part of the original tradition given by the gods.” (ch. 8, pg. 116)

“This extraordinary state of affairs seems to point to some kind of a destiny. It even suggests the theory that in the western hemisphere some great experiment of mankind was to be attempted. For, whatever the nations or peoples which came as colonizers were changed into the likeness of the things which this continent represented.” (ch. 8, pg. 119 – in reference to America’s land being set apart for a divine purpose)

“This experiment was made on the American continent in ancient times, very long ago. And if you visit the Northern Indian tribes of Alaska, or mingle with the most primitive people at Terra del Fuego, at the tip of South America, you will find that every tribal people of this continent has been dominated by the same theory of life, that of collective cooperation. It is the only continent where every people in their root and origin has had the same viewpoint […] It seems to be part of the chemical structure of the soil, with the very earth beneath our feet releasing a combination of energy – vibrations, if you prefer – which brings into manifestation throughout the temperament of the people the basic impulse toward social equality and human equity.” (ch. 8, pg. 121)

Also worthy of note is the worship of Quetzalcoatl, the plumed serpent with many parallels to Jesus, who it was believed would return to rule forever over the golden age to come (the New Atlantis). The Masons believe Quetzalcoatl to be a master architect and the founder of an ancient Mystery School religion.

There is more to it than I could possibly get into here so I encourage you to read it if it’s a subject you’re interested in studying further (while of course keeping in mind the affiliations and biases of the man who wrote it, and thus reading with caution and discernment.) I’ll leave you with one further excerpt to hopefully sum it all up: “The parallels and analogies are innumerable, but they all tell us that the natives of the three Americas in pre-Colombian times were acquainted with those secret orders and fraternities which have contributed so much to the spiritual, moral, and social progress of mankind.” (ch. 2, pg. 36)

Sulli
Sulli
1 month ago

If you want the answer straight from the horse’s mouth, that’s where you’ll find it. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with MPH, but he’s also the author of “The Secret Teachings of All Ages,” perhaps the most comprehensive encyclopedia on occultism ever written and listed by VC under their recommended reading. Again, there’s far more to it than I could get into here, including the Magick they believe the NAs to have possessed as well as the importance of their symbolism that is still in use today. It’s a fascinating read for sure, I hope you’ll check it out!

Micha-El
Micha-El
23 days ago
Reply to  Sulli

Sulli, Look at the starmaps of Wayne Herschell on Hidden Records; this will give a very plausible interpretation to what you were saying.

donmako
donmako
1 month ago
Emily
Emily
1 month ago

Sounds like a question for 444gem!

444Gem
444Gem
1 month ago
Reply to  Emily

It relates to two different satanic religious reasons:

1) The native Americans that survive today are A faction of the Aryans that left the caucuses and steppes very early due to differences with the governance that was becoming hostile and genocidal. This is known in archeology as the Yamnaya Culture diffusion.
2) During the period in which The Dragons destroyed Phoenicia and then the Aryeh Yehudah Second Temple, many of us departed from Sefarad (Spain) for the America’s to meet up with our formerly departed brethren.

I will explain The religious desire to possess the Magick of The Americans in a later post. Know that America does not come from “Amerigo Vespucci” but instead from “Amariga” in ancient Aryan texts and high means “land of the winged Serpent” aka Land of Dragons.

Fleurdamour
Fleurdamour
1 month ago

An important element of occultism is tantra, an ancient system the purpose of which is to raise kundalini energy, which I have said here before I believe to be false life force, Luciferian energy. One aspect of tantra is a fixation on graveyards and bones, especially skulls, hence Skull and Bones. One tantric practice is to drink from skull cups, and another is to practice sexual rituals in graveyards, tapping into the most primal forces of life and death. Tantric practices supposedly generate siddhis, magical abilities. I don’t know about specifically Native American remains but I know dark tantrikas try to get their hands on such things to use in rituals. The NA people were a genetically isolated population for a long time, so maybe their is some potency dark magicians might prize. Skull and Bones do things like have sex in coffins, which is pure tantric sex magick. They also do things like have rituals with human bodily fluids and excrement. It is all very dark, black magic.

Fleurdamour
Fleurdamour
1 month ago
Reply to  Fleurdamour

PS Maybe they are tapping into the mass sacrificial energy of genocide.

A E
A E
1 month ago
Reply to  Fleurdamour

Wow. Had no idea.

Fleurdamour
Fleurdamour
1 month ago

That always happens in societies subjugated after they lose a war. It is a tool of imperialism to erase the culture of the subjugated people. It is a way of neutralizing any threat they might pose. They can’t fight back if they can’t unite.

juniper
juniper
1 month ago

not saying there isn’t some twisted magic idea they believe, but on the face of it, the natives wouldve been the poorest and least powerful group so their children could be abused and no one would do anything about it. Just like now, orphans and children in CPS are preyed upon by them.

jocko
jocko
1 month ago

The Popes are antichrist and headed to hell as their eternal rewards.

Fleurdamour
Fleurdamour
1 month ago

There are some Native American religious practices and beliefs that are very occult. The Southern Cult has some imagery and symbols like a tree that is half living half dead which are similar to those found in other cultures. That tree imagery is the same as the Near Eastern kabbalah, which depicts the tree of life, the sephiroth, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the qliphoth or shadow side of the tree and the realm of demons. The Southern Cult also has imagery emphasizing the eyes that represents beings that dwell in the underworld. And there is a central pillar motif that is red and white, which is kundalini imagery and coloring. Kundalini is supposedly life force energy but I believe it to be Luciferian and falsely spiritual. There is also an eye in the hand motif in the Southern Cult which is exactly the same as a symbol in Zos Kia Cultus, a system of black magic. And there is also a giant serpent, another kundalini symbol and one that is often linked to the tree of life symbol I am not trying to single out Native American religion, there is a dark spiritual influence found worldwide. My own Northern European background has similar occult images like Yggdrasil, the great tree. The Native American occult imagery inspired a lot of the original Twin Peaks tv show, which is deep black Satanic in nature. Evil has an influence everywhere.

Fleurdamour
Fleurdamour
1 month ago
Reply to  Fleurdamour

I meant to add, look up Southeastern Ceremonial Complex or Southern Cult for more detail. The Wikipedia page has pictures of some of the symbols I listed.

A E
A E
1 month ago

I’ve watched a Cherokee couple on youtube who are sure their tribe are Jewish descent – they state their rites, rituals and even language are parallel. I’ve watched natives sing and dance to Yahweh. It’s interesting, to be sure.

Laz
Laz
1 month ago

Speaking of black Jews, Miles Mathis just did Will Smith’s and Chris Rock’s genealogies. Turns out both are part Jew and are most likely cousins.

xyz
xyz
1 month ago
Reply to  Laz

A lot of bs

jocko
jocko
1 month ago
Reply to  Laz

Everybody are 56th cousins to everybody. Pay attention.